Which is exceedingly funny given that Microsoft (along with Facebook and Google) store UK data in the US, outside of the UK’s jurisdiction, ever since the UK voted for more “sovereignty” with Brexit.
Us corpo will steal data stored in Eu and EU regimes just take the dicks like good lil bitches that they are.
Idiots wasted decades funding US tech parasites.
Only way out is heavy investments into open source IMHO.
Everyone who saw the “cloud” as nothing more than someone else’s disk space knew it as well.
This has been the legal fact since the start of the entire circle jerk.
When US was whining about chinaman corpo having to collaborate with the shepooh regimes they were just pointing that they have the same laws. Just like any other country.
But pedoking corpos will even break other countries laws for profit or to comply with glowie requests.
Hard to understand why any sovereign would deal with corpos who share basic philosophy with rapists.
I told everybody so, too.
Me too! Crazy concept that “someone else’s computer”
That’s clear, but the issue here is that even when servers are located in the EU, they still have to give homeland security (and others I guess) access to them because they are an US company.
Proposal: a law that prohibits them from doing so, overriding US law.
I think that that’s already the case (data must not exit EU), it’s just US companies ignoring it. Somebody correct me, if I’m wrong, please.
No no that is correct. In law offices around the EU there had been dismay ever since these laws clearly contradict each other.
But its politics and greed that kept the situation alive.
The “cloud = someone else’s computer” bit got old like 5 minutes after it was first coined and it’s been decades now, so maybe just stop parroting bullshit and read the article?
Then you’d find out that “someone else’s computer” is not the problem, the jurisdictions is. Aka Microsoft can’t deny US gov requests for foreign entities data.
Data sovereignty is very much possible even on someone else’s computer, given:
- the company legally promises to respect your data sovereignty
- you trust the company to uphold their promise
- the company resides in a country which can’t legally force them to disclose foreign data
- you trust the country
The issue here is 3. or 4. (not sure which one, didn’t really check, probably both), not 1. or 2. (while I don’t have very high opinions of Microsoft, I don’t think they’d voluntarily break the promise because way too much money from other huge corporations goes their way).
not 1. or 2. (while I don’t have very high opinions of Microsoft, I don’t think they’d voluntarily break the promise because way too much money from other huge corporations goes their way).
Microsoft can and does promise what the customers want. When the warrant comes - and we’ve seen stupider warrants from the current “administration of never-ending firsts” - they can shrug and say “it’s the law. Sorry.”
So Microsoft’s promise, given the cloud act, is made while they KNOW they can’t uphold it; and with a team of lawyers looking it over, they know this going in. The US gov can most definitely grab your data from a US company’s servers on Irish soil, for instance, as that’s specifically why the USCloud act was enacted.
Want to see what Mark has on his mind going into the next NAFTA meeting? NSA no-tell warrant to raid Outlook or AWS-CA1 or azure and it’s all his. Tesla need a leg-up against Rivian? Same. Facebook wants to know what Germany has in store for privacy? Go check all their email.
OVH at least structured to ensure no warrant can legally compel release of data.
