Something that i find prettyd disgusting these days is how certain people put their political ideologies / viewpoints over human lives, for example, celebrating the russian invasion of ukraine because it is “a blow against US / NATO imperialism” completely ignoring all the warcrimes, the deaths, and the suffering generated by that war, the same happening with the palestinian genocide because “Israel is the only working democracy on the middle east”, acting like their ideoligies are going to bring back to life all the dead people somehow

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    But it isn’t your body though. And intentionally causing a miscarriage isn’t a normal function of your body.

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      Your argument is that my body isn’t mine?

      You’re so wrong it’s not even funny. Maybe try living without resorting to advice from a book sloppily written (and rewritten) ages ago to dominate people afraid of shit they don’t understand?

      Then again, logic is clearly not your strong suit.

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        A foetus isn’t part of your body. It’s a separate being with it’s own blood type and DNA and can also feel pain. Just because it is in you doesn’t mean it is you.

        Also, I’m sorry, but I’m really confused to what you’re saying? Is that a critique of modern medicine or something??? Like of course medical textbooks (what I assume you were referring to, unless there was a specific one) have been rewritten, we’re actively researching how to combat different diseases and prevent fatalities. Are you trying to promote homeopathy or something?

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          While it’s fun watching you trying to weasel your way out of the discussion at hand your comments in other threads betrayed your thoughts on the matter already. You know full well which fucking book I’m talking about, and it isn’t compatible with modern medical texts in the least.

          If you want to believe in bullshit you’re free to do so, but why the fuck do you think anyone would be the least bit interested in what your imaginary friend thinks about abortion?

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            Who is using the Bible as a medical textbook, and at what point did I mention the Bible in regards to abortion? It’s completely irrelevant to this discussion.

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              Your whole stance on abortion is guided by your beliefs, you’ve made that much glaringly obvious. There’s not a single other reason for anyone to be against other people’s abortions like you are. Each and everyone is responsible for their own decisions, you don’t get to involve yourself.

              It’s utter insanity, yet you spout it like it’s some sort of inherent truth. That’s what zealots do, not normal people.

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                So “killing people is wrong” is an inherently Christian belief, which atheists don’t possess?

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                  We already figured out that you are ok with killing people under specific circumstances. Try at least to pretend to be consistent.

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                  Because christianity has such a stellar track record when it comes to murder, right?

                  Either way, you’re the only one who considers it murder, and not only that, you seem to think your personal religion should be the sole decider in where the line is drawn. Even for people who don’t want to have anything to do with any of that shit.

                  Who made you the arbiter of justice? God?

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                    I’m the only one? sure.

                    And as I said, I don’t think that’s where the line should be drawn for religious reasons.

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          A foetus isn’t part of your body.

          If it’s not part of my body, I can just remove it and it will just survive on it’s own, it has blood type and DNA so should be ok.

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            If you abandon a born child on it’s own, it wouldn’t survive very long either.

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              So is a blastula also a child? You don’t see the difference between the ability of a foetus to survive outside it’s mother and that of a born child?

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                I do not see it’s inability to survive as an excuse or justification to kill it

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      And jailing people for unintentional miscarriages also isn’t a normal functioning society.

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        And the people in Gaza should simply stop living in Gaza.

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          I see, you have difficulties differentiating things. I help you my friend: a human body is not a country. You are welcome.

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            And a factory is not a country either, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have safety standards or worker’s rights

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              Not sure how that is related to anything, but religious people come up with the funniest explanations - so entertain me.

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                    Saying someone deserves to die for being in a place that they cannot help being in is a very dangerous thing to say.