• RunningInRVA@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    I hate school shootings as much as you, but I don’t think cell phones do much help once the shooter is in the building.

    Edit: Uvalde would be a good example where the shooter was identified and authorities were called while the shooter was still outside the building.

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      5 months ago

      If you wanna get all brutal and how it is in America about it, I am thinking more about giving the kids a chance to say good bye than actually getting help.

      We have established that noone who could actually do something about it cares about all of the kids getting murdered in America schools.

      Edit: And remember. While Uvalde cops sat outside and wet their pampers, a mother overpowered them to get children evacuated. A mother who was… notified by their child with a cell phone… and later faced criminal charges for it.

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        5 months ago

        I understand and empathize with the point you are trying to make. School shootings are the worst possible tragedies.

        That said, I still do not think we should shape school cell phone policies around the off chance of a school shooting (please do not chastise my use of ‘off chance’. The fact that it happens at all is too much, but I think the chance that it happens to any one school is still pretty low).

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            5 months ago

            I don’t think guns and phones in school are even the same conversation to be honest. I think that’s my trouble with the other commenter’s approach to the conversation.

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              5 months ago

              Gotcha it is once again not time to talk about gun control.

              We should go back to talking about Tik Tok. The real threat to children.

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                5 months ago

                That’s not what I’m trying to say. The article is about cell phone policy in schools. The discussion got into gun control because Melkath feels like cell phones should be universally allowed in schools because kids should be able to call their parents during school shootings.

                I’m eager to talk about gun control. I’m also eager to talk about cell phones in school.

                I fail to see how gun violence in schools is at all related to cell phone policies in school. The attempt to link them together, as if cell phones must exist in schools because we can’t deal with gun violence, is laughable.

                Edit: also I never mentioned TikTok.

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                5 months ago

                You are treating me as though I don’t care about the victims of school shootings at all and I don’t appreciate that. You couldn’t have a decent conversation with me without putting your own words in my mouth and then blowing up at me for saying them. As I try to exit the conversation you feel the need to cut me down again.

                So, have a good day.

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            5 months ago

            Maybe you should learn how to hold a normal discussion without attacking the other party. Cursing and telling the other party to fuck off just because they disagree with you will not convinced anyone of anything and will only make you look bad. It’s not like the person you’re responding to is advocating for school shootings or anything else immoral.