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      Fuck that. I don’t care where they’re from. Scammers don’t deserve to be treated with respect or dignity. They are subhuman trash and ruin people’s lives.

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          I don’t see how it’s any different from calling Russians “Ivan” of Germans “Fritz”. It’s not a nice thing to do but I’d place it pretty far down on the racism scale tbh.

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            Ivan or Fritz are real names/surnames from those countries which have completely different meaning now compared to how they were used in wars. Pajeet is a made up name only used so far to hate on Indians/ South Asians.

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              Calling russians Ivan and Germans Fritz is also racist, even if the names are legit 😁

              It might not be as bad as calling Indians Pajeet, because there’s less contempt, but still!

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                  Someone needs to take a chill pill. I did say “pajeet” is worse (and I’ll add that it’s on a whole other level of offence), and somehow that makes me a racist. Sure bud. All I was saying is dehumanizing russians or germans is not OK 🙄

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                    And your two examples are also super offensive. Replacing one with the other makes no difference. You’re not making any sense, but I guess you’re not yourself when you’re malding for no good reason.

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          While yes it is absolutely racist, scammers are not capable of having an identity associated with someone who is on par with humanity. They’re far below animals.

          I prefer the term “demihuman” or any other dehumanizing language so they know who they are.

          Minus the human trafficked ones of course. Only the vast majority who do it willingly.

          Edit: let me clarify. I did not say using racist terminology is correct nor justified. I’m saying that people who scam others are so far removed from the identity of humanity and compassion that they do not deserve the light of day, much less the air they breathe.

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            Using racial slurs isn’t only damaging and insulting to the person being directly talked to or about. I suggest adopting a blanket position against racial slurs in any context.

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              But what about <incredibly contrived specific example involving song lyrics, guns to heads etc.>, can I say it then?

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              I didnt say using racial slurs is correct. I said the act of scamming someone is so far removed from the identity of what it means to be human.

              I never defended the terminology used in the post. Nor would I use that. Its shallow, and means far less than telling them they aren’t someone capable of receiving any care.

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                Scamming is core to what it is to be human, other animals don’t scam, and when they do, insofar as they do, we say they are like us

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                  Not really. It’s racism when he goes around putting them down without context that makes sense or discriminates with employment stuff and whatnot.

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                    Lol, i said “i got mugged by n-words”, its racism. when the 4chan dude says “pajeets scam me”, its racism.

                    Mo matter how angry you are, if you use racial slurs, you’re kinda racist.

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            Yay, someone committed le wrong, that means we get dehumanoze them yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

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              I’m a bit lost. I didn’t justify using racist terms. I’m saying that scammers lack the core traits of humanity, compassion and care in others.

              And they don’t deserve anything, let alone feeling comfortable in a conversation, or the air they breathe.

              That is regardless of race, sex, gender. If you scam someone else, you don’t deserve life.

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                Dehumanization isnt just racism lol. Its any kind of denial of humanity to anyone. And i really dont care for it.

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                I get scammed every day on a near daily basis. I get scammed when my landlord raises my rent without fair cause. I get scammed when I look at inflated sale prices at my local grocery store for already shrinkflated goods. I get scammed when I get fees and tips tacked on to my bill when I go to the movie theater or a restaurant. It’s fucking infuriating but I don’t wish death upon my waitress, the store owner, or even my landlord. It’s all just unregulated capitalism in action. Scams, big or small, make money, and money moves us forward.

                Just because some degenerate across the world with a funny accent who I will likely never interact with plays by the same rules doesn’t mean he should be thrown into a wood chipper. IMO.

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                have you read their comment? they literally said that scammers are “less than animals”. JFC

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                  They are? Being human relies on community and compassion for others. If you scam someone else, you deserve nothing but the dirt you walk on, let alone the clothes on your back. Regardless of gender, race, sex, etc.

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                    Mate, i dont like scammers either but a. Dehumanization just isnt cool. Not for anyone. b. I do think that Scammers should face justice, but denying their humanity just means that “i can treat them however i like and no amount of pain is too much lol. cuz they not humaaaaaan.”

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          Doesn’t that actually absolve them of their shit behavior? It isn’t the same to try and scam grandmas because you want a shinier car than because you’re locked at a basement and beaten up if you don’t make your kidnappers money.

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            Sorry, when I said “So that’s fun”, I was being sarcastic

            But that’s kinda what I was trying to get at. You don’t really know if a scammer is being trafficked or not, so casting a wide net that calls all of them human garbage becomes difficult