The answer to your question is right in your question.

“Logic”

Cold, hard logic no longer applies. Reality is manufactured now. Pointing out a logical fallacy doesn’t change anyone’s mind if that logic doesn’t coincide with their ideology.

The oligarch owned media/government/education system wants the working class fighting each other rather than going after the real parasites (the oligarchs). They use 24/7 cradle to grave propaganda to convince people that the threat comes from “others” instead of the bosses. Easier to get people to punch down.

Oligarchs are seizing control of the country. Wages have been declining for decades; there was a time when you could buy a house with just a few years’ salary. As the rich become richer and the poor become poorer, the middle class slowly sinks towards the poverty line. To shield themselves from public scrutiny, the oligarchs use propaganda to spread Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt. They deploy their most charismatic and beautiful individuals to tell you that if it weren’t for all those foreigners, you’d have a stable job.

Meanwhile, all manufacturing companies have been sold and moved overseas. Unskilled and uneducated labor is at an all-time low. Drug use is up, crime rates are soaring, and neighborhoods are falling into poverty. Is it time to protest, to start an uprising? But wait—straight from Fox News: all those immigrants who came over are criminals. It’s gang violence. Other countries are exiling their criminals and sending them to us. Our poor, uneducated, unwashed masses are eager to believe this, allowing the right to swoop in, carrying these people back home. They believe that finally, they’ll land that big job, get the big raise, the big truck, have nine kids, and live happily ever after.

Never try to underestimate stupid. You’ll fail every time.

Racism. Next question.

Assuming that all non-white people are illegal immigrants is called “racism”. (Stupid too, but mostly racism)

Id say about 90% of folks that push for this dont understand how our immigration/asylum system works other 10% would be hateful racist. In my experience, if you reply with yeah this is a problem we need to change how it works so people arent forced to do illegal things, they will tell they just dont want them here. Its not about coming in illegally its about non white people coming here. We really need reform. Your friend is on very sad and dangerous path.

Well by definition if you are born in someplace you are a native of that place.

They don’t care. They just want to get rid of brown people. “Illegal Immigration” is just the smoke screen.

Yesterday, at a park, I saw some Patriot Front (a neonazi group) posters on two adjacent polls. One was something about the “American spirit” descending from “European blood”. The other said “America is for Americans”. Without a hint of irony.

As if Europeans didn’t immigrate but just popped out of the ground here, or something?

Racists aren’t known for their critical thinking skills.

First, think about how smart the “average” person is.

Next, think about how half of the people in the world are dumber than that and you start to get an idea.

Will yes but… Muh DEI and eggs…

Oh i have no doubt they tell native Americans to go back where they came from. Especially folks like Tejanos who speak Spanish and used to be Mexican.

those people are looking for something to hate. This is also why those kind of people are deadend for humanity. If they get rid of all immigrants they will find some other group to hate and after getting rid of those they will find another again until there are only 2 people that want to kill eachother, if you excuse the hyperbole.

For a moment I was like wtf…then I saw this was on no stupid questions