DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Iran’s supreme leader said Friday that negotiations with America “are not intelligent, wise or honorable” after President Donald Trump floated nuclear talks with Tehran.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei also suggested that “there should be no negotiations with such a government,” but stopped short of issuing a direct order not to engage with Washington.

Khamenei’s remarks upend months of signals from Tehran to the United States that it wanted to negotiate over its rapidly advancing nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of crushing economic sanctions worth billions of dollars.

Khamenei noted that Trump unilaterally withdrew from the earlier nuclear deal under which Iran drastically limited its enrichment of uranium and overall stockpile of the material, in exchange for crushing sanctions being removed.

“The Americans did not uphold their end of the deal,” Khamenei said. “The very person who is in office today tore up the agreement. He said he would, and he did.”

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    Not intelligent, wise, or honorable. Yeah that about sums up the Trump admin.

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        Go look at the context as he’s saying it makes no sense to negotiate with the guy who tore up the last agreement which Iran was honoring.

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          While I agree with him in this specific context, I don’t find Khamenei intelligent or honorable either, which is why I said what I said.

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        Iran elected a more moderate president. Then Israel bombed the Hamas leader at the presidents inauguration.

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          I know. That doesn’t change the fact that Khamenei is an oppressive autocrat, and power ultimately doesn’t preside with the presidency there.

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            You convinced me. There is no other solution than to bomb Irans nuclear sites and power infrastructure. Also take out a few dams and grain silos while we are at it to really liberate those oppressed people.

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              I didn’t advocate for any of that. All I did was point out Iran’s leadership also sucks.

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                  I was not happy when Trump unilaterally pulled out of the deal; I have wondered if Hamas’ October 7th attack even happens if rapprochement with Iran continued rather than what ended up happening, but I am also not convinced Iranian leadership was much interested in changing much beyond getting sanctions relief. US actions aren’t the reason why they’re oppressive to women and LGBT folks or why they’re supplying arms to Russia in aid of their invasion of Ukraine. Maybe the latter would be different if Russia wasn’t one of their only options for trading partners, it’s tough to say.

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                    US actions are partially the reason though. The population could have changed if it was not being actively convinced not to do so.

                    Instead of moderates, hardliners became more popular because of the constant US threat, refusing to normalize, and not holding up its end of deals.

                    Iran has a long history of US and European meddling and stealing their oil since 1953. You might not understand but they have plenty of reason to fear the US. And they have been betrayed many times when they let their guard down.

                    It would be akin to asking why Ukrainians do not love Russian culture after Russia invaded their country and bombed them.

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          Iran’s “President” is a figurehead with no real power. Having one be more “moderate” would not change the country’s direction, regardless of whether the US bombed it or not.
          Their Supreme Leader (chosen by a closed council) is the one who actually sets policy and has effectively full control, then their president follows those policies.

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            The president did promise to revert many of the more conservative laws and extended an olive branch in exchange for sanction relief. Which was quickly set ablaze.

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            The Iranian President runs the day to day governance. The Grand Ayatollah focuses on the bigger picture.

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              According to the constitution (Article 111), the Assembly of Experts is tasked with electing (following Ayatollah Khomeini), supervising, and dismissing the Supreme Leader. In practice, the Assembly has never been known to challenge or otherwise publicly oversee any of the Supreme Leader’s decisions[20] (all of its meetings and notes are strictly confidential).[21] Members of the Assembly are chosen by bodies (the Guardian Council) whose members are appointed by the Supreme Leader or appointed by an individual (Chief Justice of Iran) appointed by the Supreme Leader.

              Just elected by a Guardian council that is in turn either appointed by the supreme leader or the Chief justice who is also appointed by the supreme leader. Pretty clearly a circular relationship. Nice name calling, though.

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                It’s a theocracy. They basically copied the Vatican model. An assembly of ExpertsConclave of Cardinals, chosen by The Supreme LeaderPope convenes to elect the Supreme LeaderPope in absolute secrecy. The thing is, looking back at the last 20 years of American politics, the US is not that different, only it’s a Plutocracy. American politicians threw away any pretense of working for, or serving, the people a long time ago.