this is why i have no pity for incels
It’s rough to be an awkward teenager, struggling to find the kind of mutual affection that you’re biologically programmed to crave. Like, bares mentioning that the OG incel was a woman complaining how much difficulty she had getting laid. And one of her primary complaints was how clumsy, prudish, and superficial her male peers proved themselves to be.
The 4chan crowd decided to Rule 30 her blog and insist this was an exclusively cis-het male problem. And then the right-wing outrage machine keyed in on it and decided this was a problem caused by the villanious cartel of liberal feminists, who were all trying to groom eligible bachelorettes into man-hating lesbians with hairy legs and pink hair. And now we’ve got an entire industry dedicated to telling men “Go to the gym, eat meat, be extremely misogynist, and vote for Donald Trump so you can have your dream of a 10/10 stacked Tradwife hottie in the suburbs with 12 kids”.
“Incel” has gone from a feminist critique of unrealistic expectations of teen dating into a reactionary consumerist fantasy.
fair enough. news to me.
i still have no pity.
Yeah and this is where I fall into the "listen if you’re someone who can’t get laid that hates that these reactionary assholes have made difficulty getting laid into “this” I’m sympathetic. But incels as they actually are have no sympathy from me.
Touch grass, work on your mental health, get a hobby, start participating in society in a constructive manner and start showering.
One of the things that gets to me is how often they mock the advice that actually helps. And I get it, I’ve struggled with mental illness and mocked helpful advice. But fucking hell dude so often the reason they can’t get laid is that nobody wants to spend time with them in any capacity.
Touch grass, work on your mental health, get a hobby, start participating in society in a constructive manner and start showering.
All good advice on its face. But they do call it “Getting Lucky” for a reason. You can be the perfect specimen and still strike out (with people you’re attracted to in kind). Past that, celibacy and the resulting depression/insecurity has an impact on your mental health even if you’re getting all the other boxes checked. “Don’t be a fucking sad sack if you want to get laid!” is easy advice to give and hard advice to live. Doubly so when you’re a moody anxious teenager, already.
And it is this hyper-individualist “fuck you, I’ve got mine” attitude is a big part of what drives people off the deep end. The Mean Girls tier prejudice stretching to naked hostility that single people experience - particularly as they get older - is just the other side to the incel coin.
One of the things that gets to me is how often they mock the advice that actually helps.
There’s a degree of selection bias. The loudest, proud-boy-est incels are inevitably the ones that have made a brand of the identity and are trying to sell PUA bullshit. There are plenty of people who struggle with “good advice” in silence. And plenty more who take it, improve, start meeting people, and stop being incels.
But the Self-Help industrialization of dating is often flooded with the same simple “Why can’t you just be normal?” tips and tricks that seem ignore how many perfectly normal people are still incredibly lonely. Meeting new people can be scary, putting yourself out on an emotional line is emotionally taxing, finding the time and money to date is often a luxury, and plenty of people who initially fall for one another discover - sometimes painfully - that they aren’t compatible.
When you trivialize love, you aren’t being helpful. Your cavalier attitude towards other people’s pain can even be abusive. Is it any surprise that a person who feels mocked and insulted isn’t fun to be around?
This is true unless you live in a rural part of the country, going outside is risky.
As cliched as it is, attitude makes a difference in how you view the world around you. Two people seeing the exact same thing can have vastly different views. Hell, the same person can have different views on different days or hours of the same day. Humans are like that.
To your point we literally don’t see the same things. Humans only “see” a tiny thumbnail of the world at a time even that is a blurry recreation of what reality is actually doing or happening in front of you.
It’s filling in the gaps in real time by old memories and splotched together assumptions. Now add to that other humans together in a group. You’re gonna eventually agree on a reality that you can communicate about and make decisions etc.
The internet has inserted itself in the evolutionary path of humans and inadvertently all life forms on earth. It’s like an alien entity that controls human minds like a fungus would.
The way I see it 4chan is filled with people who have untreated mental health issues. I personally have Anxiety and the world seems dark and miserable (granted im also trans and surrounded by Transphobes).
Being trans in 2025 must feel like being Will Smith in Enemy of the State.
Pretty much
Im also a strong unionist and Anarcho-Syndicalist, im basically playing life like its Wolfenstein on the mein leben difficulty (the hardest one)
Shhh. Let them stay at home, I don’t need the competition.
Competition? You may be giving them too much credit.
You may be giving @TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world too much crdit.
i gotta know where this guy lives because that sounds awesome
Um, pretty much everywhere? Just avoid the upper-class areas and you’ll see essentially what OP sees.
Sounds like most major US cities.
Edit: or college towns, even.
Yeah you need to be in a high cost of living area, not in rural hell.
In Brazil, maybe the only thing not as accurate is that here everyone is cute and handsome (the gostosa energy)
Compare LA to Phoenix AZ and you go from the description of all the things the green text says are aren’t true to them being reality. 4 Chan is probably filled with people from conservative shitholes hating life because they live in a conservative shithole
I’m of the opinion that you shouldn’t raise kids in conservative shit holes. What if they are gay?
Yeah, this is what people don’t get. Anon goes out in NY and sees that. Go out in Bumfuck, Utah and this are very different
Hey, I live in Utah, and it’s not bad. Sure, there are a bunch of Trumpers, but most of the people are chill. Even in the middle of nowhere.
You can find good and bad areas everywhere. If you avoid the worst of it, pretty much everywhere is livable with people.
This has nothing to do with right/left political inclinations. In the real world people just associate based on things they have in common.
I imagine it can vary wildly within both of those cities. I guarantee that both cities you mention have areas where everything OP said holds true.
This feels weird, but I agree with you, internet stranger.
Life in a walkable city
Perhaps outside is so nice because all the haters are locked inside 4chan doing that annoying fucking captchca over and over.
I was anticipating his clarity once the Psilocybin wore off.
just don’t let that happen and you’ll be fine. your existence occurs inside your head. make it a pleasant place.
Some say that he’s still high to this day.
It’s a shame that this is fake gay
Knew it was fake as soon as it started with >Go Outside
And I knew it was gay when they first started talking about guys.
😂😂
This is 100% true 50% of the time
In only 25% of the world
so 12,5% chance of this being the case? still not bad
✅ Fake
✅ Gay
So “outside” is real? I don’t understand. Can someone give me a download like or something?
There is no ceiling
The ceiling stops the eldritch fleshmelter from melting my skin and stealing my vision.
I dunno but am I crazy or is that onigumo?
