I mean, there were some very close calls. Trump already has one on the board as well.

Just like Germany, once it’s already in power the movement won’t necessarily die with the leader.

That’s true, although I’m skeptical they couldn’t overcome it. There’s no shortage of educational overlap, or of big European institutions.

Thinking about this a bit, if the US rolls some kind of icebreaker convoy up there to occupy Nuuk, they could respond by seizing all the US bases in Europe and taking anyone they catch as a prisoner. That seems like an exchange in the EU’s favour; Greenland’s just not a very major place. There’s arguments for everything from non-military retaliation only to nuking New York, though.

Yeah, that’s probably where to go on Lemmy. I’m spoiled for choice off of Lemmy. They’re all going to be full of a mix of every take though, aside from the boring ones like “diversify and hold”.

Over-the-counter land wouldn’t really fit there, though.

If it goes long enough for new production to matter, the EU is actually better equipped for a war of attrition, being bigger and having some kind of unity. Would it actually be a drawn-out war of attrition, or something else? Hard to say, because like you’ve pointed out the whole thing is so dumb.

Again, carriers aren’t the only variable in play, even if they are very good at creating a zone of air superiority. Greenland isn’t the only theater here, it’s not a single point you can sit on top of, and it’s not even mostly inhabited. I’ll try not to repeat myself about the other factors I’ve mentioned.

Yes, but what would they go and do with them? I’m not super sure they could use much of that stuff up in Greenland when things are iced over, and then there’s the question of how survivable they would be vs. technologically sophisticated Europe. What does holding Greenland even mean to them? What kind of losses are they willing to take elsewhere? What about MAD?

I mentioned the submarine thing because you made it sound like they’d be stuck on their own continent, and that’s an obvious counterexample. There’s like a million things at play.

smarter, richer, more connected

There is no free lunch. There’s tons and tons of people who will claim to be smart, rich and connected but that actually are just grifters, and if they can prove otherwise they’re absolutely going to bill for their time. And then there’s also grifters who will bill for their time, some of whom are one or more of those things.

I should also point out that smarter is largely independent of the other two. And that trading on non-public information can be illegal, especially in developed countries.

Basically, if you’re speculating on land somewhere you need to do your own homework or you’ll definitely get gotten.

France alone could roll up a nuclear submarine wherever, though. It would be a weird war but I don’t actually know how unequal it would be.

It’s Greenland. Just principle isn’t going to move anybody. Maybe not even Denmark. There’s other treaties, though.

And since it’s basically the US and everyone else in equal share, NATO is just dead and irrelevant if they’re the ones breaking it.

The EU, on the other hand, would probably be in like a dirty shirt, having a defence agreement aspect. Maybe Canada too, just because we’d know we’re next.

I don’t have an answer, but do you mean international as in everywhere, specifically non-US or even specifically developing?

Edit: Oh, on the whole internet? Yes, more than one.

Aren’t they still using centrally assigned Validators?

On a bit of investigation, they run a small number and have endorsed some, but there’s many more that you could tell your own node or validator to trust. What the exact interconnection is it’s hard to say from just some searching.

The lower computing requirements come from no mining, and no by-default storage of irrelevant historical data. A bank account with only one “node” and no internal network communications going back and forth would be a lot leaner yet, though, so it’s not the exact same thing.

For your network traffic, are you bouncing it through an onion route for which the peers aren’t required to save records - like Tor?

Yep, exactly. There’s no real substitute for it if you want to use the same internet as everyone else.

It’s cool that my instance let me sign up with just an essay instead of going through all the hoops you usually have to, although we’re unsurprisingly having the start of a spam problem.

Honestly I don’t recognize your username, but since you’re privacy focused I assume you just change it. It’s been a long time. ❤️

I do, and it has, but I hate to say I can’t be sure we met. When I started out it was small and obscure but not name-basis small.

Citizen, desist using science words immediately, and get back to consuming ContentSlop™ as appropriate for your clearance level.

Okay, maybe that’s a bit spicy, but getting googlebombed by basic stuff when I’m looking for something technical does feel like this. Duckduckgo will even replace your search with a totally different search sometimes!

Nice, you found it!

There’s probably another one somewhere poorer yet that’s stealing their thunder. China has developed to the point where workers can do more specialist things and so can charge more.

A “handmade, museum-quality reproduction” painting sounds a little bit too good to be true

Wait which part? It’s a thing, there is or was a city in China where making hand reproductions is their main industry, but it sounds like you specifically went looking so that’s not a surprise.

If you’re sus because of the price: Cheap third-world labour. Actually, you could probably find even cheaper, since $335 is still a bit. If you’re wondering if it will actually be “museum quality”, well, that’s an advertising term and not a meaningful thing in the first place. It’s all down to how experienced the particular artist is, and there’s of course a risk that they won’t ship you the thing described at all.

I mean, it’s been around as a concept for a couple centuries. If anything I’d say that it’s “on the out” as something seriously suggested in popular discourse. It’s just that we’ve semi-accidentally built the infrastructure to implement such a thing very quickly.

But most of the people here call it necessary, preferable and even desirable.

To be clear, where’s “here”? Lemmy, your IRL location, somewhere else?

I actually have no idea what it was in originally - it was just a clip shown in the intro to Saturday Night Live. Which goes to show how normalised that sort of thing is.

So will this actually help anything, Or will Bardella just pick up where she left off?

Hmm. Would that be politically viable? If they’re coming to your rescue militarily the relationship has to be deeper than just trade.

I said 15 months or less to hyperinflation somewhere yesterday. In that case, they could theoretically start conscription and grind Ukraine down that way, or start selling big ticket things like territory in exchange for help, but political capacity to enforce that is a serious question.

Or just literally any of the giant pile of dictators that were overthrown.