∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name, kitty]

The other party could put up whatever shitty candidate they wanted whether they espouse the views of the population or not.

Like genocide! Or 99% of the other candidates facist policies. Or …

I wondered what you wrote, unfortunately it seems like it was on a different account as there is zero things in the (hexbear) modlog for this username.

This is the problem with hexbear: they lure you in with things like gaming and then you start agreeing with them that none should go hungry or homeless and once you realize it, you’ve become a trans redfash tankie gobbunist (/s)

Has it not? Has it not caused the death of 1 million people in Indonesia? Has it not caused 7 million excess deaths due to “shock-therapy” in Russia alone? Has it not caused the brutality, violence and oppression of the “dictatorships” that the CIA installed in Latin America? Has it not caused countless famines? Has it not caused the economic ruin of Africa and Latin America?

What happens if you turn this around?

The precise terminology of the US’s political system is unimportant. What is important is that wherever the recipes of [Liberalism] have been tried, the result has been violence, brutality, oppression, famine, economic ruin.

This is all true of course. So what then? Do you also reject Liberalism?

There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror — that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.

Taken from https://redsails.org/the-two-terrors/

I think there is like one party in Folketinget that is even slightly left, Enhedslisten.

Neither of these links show OBJECTION accepting a genocide.

Not to belittle your point, but calling Marx a socialist and Engles a capitalist is a kin as calling Jesus a Christian who’s disciples were Jews.

Cowbee didn’t do that. Cowbee said that Engles was a Capitalist, i.e. he had Capital, I am reading it as if you are mistaking it for Liberal? Cowbee also didn’t call Marx a socialist.

Nope.

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Yea I haven’t. But it changes none of what I have said.

As always, it ends like this.

This is rapidly devolving into bad-faith pedantry, but fine

No it isn’t.

Cowbee has asked multiple times for you to expand upon what you stated such that it can be engaged with. Much of what you have stated is vibes, it doesn’t contain any specifics. You feel that Marx would have been this way, you feel that china is authoritarian, none of it engages with reality, none of it contains any sources. If asking for this is bad-faith pedantry, then no discussion can be had.

No, his stance is that Communism, or as I believe Marx called it upper stage communism, has not been achieved. Lower stage communism‒or socialism‒has, as seen in China and the USSR. Both of these are/were communist, as in they are/were led by Marxist/communist parties working towards Communism.

And what is authoritarianism? What are tankies?

For this to be a fruitful discussion, you two have to agree on what the definition of things are

The first comment is self-contradictory, “not going to read” yet there is “circular logic”. If they haven’t read it, how can they know that it is there?

Why make a comment if you aren’t going to engage in good faith? What is the point?

You may not have seen it, but I changed it to an image with a bunch of quotes.

You want quotes? Here are quotes

Ableism? Transphobia? Where

time for some bans it seems.