Yeah. You’re not wrong. China has trade with everyone. It’s why they always just “condemn” and then continue trading. My point is that at some point they will have to take action in defense of their Allie’s at the US keeps escalating.

Yeah. My point is more so about how America is viewed by the rest of the world and it’s Allie’s today in comparison to Iraq. We are far far less respected. World’s done with pretending to believe our lies.

It’s not that. They are forming a narrative for the American public’s concent. It’s not that Trump is dumb. It’s not that the news media is dumb. It’s that they think the American public is dumb (and they are).

We aren’t at the point of “we are a superior race and need to kill all these Muslims” yet. So we still attempt to justify our absolutely unjustifiable actions. At least to the dumbest people of American. That’s who this is for. No one else.

China needs to start caring about how these actions from the US are threatening it’s own stability. I don’t want war with China. But there is a point where they will be forced to take actual action to defend their allies. And that’s what the US is banking on. They want world war. This is another step towards that.

Dude on CNN talking about how “now we are looking for Iran to come to the table for diplomacy”. They are really trying to set up concent for further involvement.

I feel like I’m losing my mind watching all news media. So just a reminder for people.

Iran attacked no one until they were first attacked by Israel. They literally got attacked by Israel days before a diplomatic talk scheduled with the US. I’m losing my mind over how blatantly our media manufactures concent for war.

God damn America. We’re such fucking scumbags dude. Fuck our imperialism.

Look forward to further fascist policies domestically now. Anyone against Trump now is going to get labeled an enemy of the state during war time.

We are so fucking dumb and bloodthirsty. This is just 2003 but somehow with an even dumber president and far far less allies.

I use to love space travel as a kid and a young adult. And now, at, 34 years old, I just want my neighbor to be able to have healthcare.

They don’t have to have read Lenin mate. They are doing what any resistance force would do when faced with generations of settler colonialism, apartheid, and genocide.

The material actions of a group and how they resist imperialism are what we define them by.

I had a similar response and then saw your comment later after I wrote mine. Just wanted to say I agree and maybe have a shared “annoyance” with the commenter that you have (not really them individually but more what narrative they are repeating from MSM).

I focused more on trying to agree with the aesthetics of liberals like this while also pointing to why what they do is unhelpful. I don’t know if it connects. I try to push them in the right direction.

From your comment Id assume you’re not American. So, I just wanted to give you some hope. There are a small minority of us that have learned from the past. A small minority that understand historical materialism and how to apply it to what we see today.

And, even more so, there are a lot of the population saying “no” out of instinct. Seeing the repeated history of the US and it’s lies and just going with a gut feeling of distrust. I know it’s not not much. But it is something.

Idk where I was going with this response. But I understand your frustration when someone tries to use civil rights suppression to justify literally bombing that didnt threaten us in anyway.

We just get verbatim talking points from 2003; that I heard at 12 years old and was skeptical of even then. My best friends joined the military soon after and I did not. Out of “instinct” and nothing more. So, I’d say that “instinct” during this new generation is even stronger. It’s something. Something I hope is strong enough for a better world in the future. Maybe in the shade of the trees that we plant but never get to enjoy.

Dude. I don’t disagree but this is not helpful. What’s helpful is acknowledging that none of that matters to the US. Our greatest allies in the region have all of what you listed and more.

All this sentiment does is manufacture concent for this war. There is one constant factor in the west asia. A constant that continues to keep countries from being able to have civil rights movements, keeps their citizens impoverished, keeps dictatorships and monarchs in power while everyday people suffer.

That constant is US intervention and disruption of the region. Intervention against evil authoritarian rule only when that countries rulers don’t allow US exploitation or threaten it’s imperialist interest.

It serves no purpose what you’re doing. Otherwise I think you should be more concerned about the US arming Saudi Arabia or Israel. Both of those countries have significantly more innocent people slaughtered under their rule.

Iran and it’s people will only know civil liberties and equal rights when they are given the stability to have those movements of their own.

Do you think the best thing for the US civil rights movement would have been a bombing campaign from Canada? No.

Please. Again, I don’t defend Iran if we’re talking about it in a bubble. But the world does not work like that. And comments like yours only manufacture consent for the invasion of a country that attacked no one without first being attacked. That’s it. We don’t need to try to pick apart anything more than that.

If you care about gay people in Iran. You should care about them being bombed. End of story. That should be everyone utmost focus right now. There is no gay person in Iran right now thinking “oh, finally the bombs of freedom reign!”. No, they are thinking “oh fuck, I need to get me and my family and friends out of here”

Sorry, a bit of a rant. So much so that I came back to re-edit the comment later. But, right now, I think it’s really important that we don’t fall for this type of narrative. The fascist controlling America are doing everything they can to manufacture concent with the Liberals.

The intentions of your comment are good and correct. But they are only helpful in a vacuum outside of the war mongering fascism that is rising.

If the only threat to Iran was it’s civil rights violations you’d be right. But the threat to Iran right now is it’s population experiencing what Gaza has for the last 21 months. Something I pray they don’t experience.

Yeah. Unfortunately it’s been obvious to a lot of us for awhile that it would only come from the ashes of this country.

Nah. Zionist have always been fascist. A switcheroo would imply this abomination of a state is any representation of what Judaism is and was prior to Zionism.

It’s a fascist cult, that has unfortunately hit the point that many religions have in the past, and overtaken what culture and religion once were for many Jewish people. Making the core of their identity having nothing to do with their ethnicity or religion but more to do with western white supremacy than anything else.

So, not really a switch, just an evolution of western supremacy that has mutated to its currently acceptable form of oppression.

It’s also important to remember that the vast vast majority of Zionist are not even Jewish. They are evangelical Christians that have found a minority group acceptable enough to use as a shield for their hatred of Arabs and Muslims.

Sarcasm

Nazis. But this time we get shitty songs from them filmed on a smartphone.

Dude. I bet they have a retirement pension. I bet they get paid sick leave and time off when their child is born. Fucking elite assholes. Unions are the real parasites on the working class.

Do they not think about the rights of the Israeli working class? It’s an Israelis right to wake up every morning and know that at least 10 children in Gaza were killed while they slept. Palestinian babies are the real elites actually.

Most people in the west you mean. Most people in the world are very much against Israel and it’s genocide. I think we forget this.

If you live in the west you can feel alone in caring about the suffering. You just feel alone in the west.

We’ve hit the point where people are only trying to save their own asses from any type of future justice. Justice that will hopefully come before they are all dead.

It is a positive shift. Don’t get me wrong. But what we are seeing right now has not done anything yet to improve the material conditions of the people of Gaza or Palestine as a whole.

These western leaders and scholars are trying to form a narrative that can be looked back at as “the point” in which they stood up against the genocide. But (1) that point was 19 months ago and (2) they aren’t actually doing anything to stop the genocide.

We cannot let history see them in a good light. These leaders and scholars have known exactly what has been happening for the last 19 months. You can’t spend 19 months denying the acts of genocide and only finally come to the conclusion once Gaza is reduced to ruins and it’s entire population is starving. That not what genocide scholars are meant to tell us. They aren’t meant to tell as after the fact. They are meant to learn from history and call out these things long before it is allowed to reach this point.

And many of them did. But if you’re a “genocide scholar” and you’re only now coming to the conclusion that this is genocide. 19 months after real scholars correctly pointed to it. You are not a scholar. You are a glorified record keeper.

My friend from Korea once said “I think most American men’s entire personality is built around trying to prove to everyone they’re not gay”. Pretty much sums it up.

This reminded me to hit my bidet button and stop browsing. Enjoying the ass blast as I type this.

That’s only true if it’s more profitable. Companies sell plenty of shit to Americans that is banned in other markets. We’re basically a dumping ground for a lot of cheap “has been linked to cancer” products.