Rabbithole

I can imagine some alpha-cunt Tate-esque grifter selling courses on how to “Just Shout at People” like it’s some sort of magic spell that mysteriously makes everything that you want happen.

Selling it like it’s the hidden secret sauce to the universe or whatever, rather than just being a dick to everyone.

Would the community even be any worse, I wonder? :)

Ironic.

I’m not sure that they ever did.

The turning point for me when I really got a concrete realisation about people absolutely not giving a shit about this was when Snowden came out and I saw the majority of people just go “Eh, that’s pretty fucked, whatever”, and then immediately jump straight back into scrolling facebook all day long.

I realised then that there probably wasn’t any point expecting anything from them. I don’t have much sympathy left for people in this regard anymore.

Most people legitimately don’t give a shit about this issue. I think that they really should, but they absolutely don’t for the most part.

Would make it a little like work email addresses too.

Say, if NYT had their own instance and disabled open sign-ups for user accounts, you could be certain that any account posting from that instance is a legit NYT account.

This right here.

It’s not about disliking some community that someone personally disagrees with for whatever reason, it’s about trying to not have the entire system taken down by a vastly powerful corporate entity with an almost endless track record of being consistently malignant.

Yeah but in this particular case it really needs to happen at the instance level rather then the user level, and preferably all instances at that. It’s about mitigating the damage that Meta/Facebook are going to do (to the entire fediverse as a system) more than it is about not seeing shitty low-effort racism or whatever they’ll have there.

If I could actually trust Meta to be benign then I’d maybe agree with you about just blocking their shit as a user, but there’s just no chance of believing that about them.

What we should be doing is de-federating them en-mass.

Nothing good will come from having Facebook/Meta involved here.

I get what you’re saying, sure. But I don’t see how they’ll remotely end up less pissed off if you take the situation as it already is and then revoke their “rights” to use social media.

This is just going to make a lot of really angry people a lot more angry.

Plus, I can guarantee you that people actually organizing on social media will immediately switch to some non-blocked online means of doing so. Trying to handle that would be an impossible game of whack-a-mole.

Ha, so he’s actively trying to throw petrol on the bonfire to put it out now.

Does anyone else think that being seen as weak and capitulating to Prigozhin here is basically a death sentence to Putin?

Doing that has to have just put SO MUCH blood in the water for every internal agency/power-block with aspirations of taking him down and replacing him.

Apparently all you need is 20,000 men and Putin’s defenceless…

My opinion is that this is going to cause chaos.

The fact that Putin didn’t have Wagner immediately atomized on the spot suggests that he wasn’t powerful enough to do so. Not a statement that someone in Putin’s position would want to make, I would think.