Sorry, I should have clarified. The VK post is from 22 hours ago and not directly related the incident yesterday. But the TEXT from that was used to amplify other posts attributing the system used last night to Genasys, across all of social media. Such as the Facebook post I linked, but that’s been rightfully taken down (hence the confusion probably). This is a common tactic with Chinese and Russian bot campaigns, the same exact text being used with maybe a 2-3 words changed around. They just pivoted an already running LRAD disinfo campaign into one suited for what happened yesterday. Again, a common tactic with them.

And Genasys doesn’t make any “gun-like” systems that I’m aware of. They’re usually vertical panels like this, this and this. Or the horn speaker thing that can be carried by individual people, but this isn’t going to have the range we saw last night. The horizontal satellite dish looking ones and the ones on towers also aren’t super directional and are used more for public addresses, so not the kind that are used for crowd control/making people sick.

I’ll look into the Israel connection in a bit too. That’s probably a good lede.

Yeah, I know about the blockade on documents. This was an issue even in 2015 when I was there. I’m one of the people who trained Serbian journalists how to gather and leak data ;)

That N1 article reads like a speculative opinion piece. But Serbian isn’t my first language and I’m not up-to-date on all of the nuances of EU-Serbia relations so I can’t really comment there. I’ll just say Serbia need to do what’s best for Serbia.

PS - I don’t know if you caught my edit in my previous post. I found the source of that Genasys rumor, it’s disinformation ;)

Edit: Forgot to mention, I’m looking into that Direktno.rs article now and seeing what I can verify. Which is tough with the document blockade as you mentioned.

Edit 2: Not finding anything linking Jugoimport & Romax directly to Genasys. Literally everything I find is linking back to the same article you linked, which sadly doesn’t contain anything concrete. I’ve found a few pictures and videos of vehicles that have dishes on top them (the Porsche pics made me laugh.) But nothing confirming they’re Genasys or even actual LRADs and their shape/profile don’t match any of the Genasys systems.

word on the street was it’s Genasys gear

Exactly. I’m not a huge fan of rumors and this is the only thing I can find directly linking Genasys and Serbia - at all. Which references Direktno.rs as their source, but I can’t that info anywhere on their site. The article you linked doesn’t even mention them directly.

Just a protip: If someone is finger pointing (at Genasys or anyone) without actual proof (documentation, pictures, etc.) just ignore it, it’s probably bullshit. Stay focused on the on the prize and taking down YOUR corrupt officials, don’t let anyone divide the group.

Edit: Yup, this rumor was started by Russian disinformation bots here and here. With their “source” being a screenshot from another, unverifiable social media post.

I’m not saying they got it from Russia either, I’m saying that the Serbian govt. can make LRADs themselves. And they (Russia and their supporters) will try to use incidents like this as propaganda to divide the people by spreading an anti-western sentiment (eg. “testing gear for the yanks or whoever”). It’s standard procedure for the Russians and their allies. Disinformation is their biggest stick right now.

Also, I’m not finding anything about Serbia acquiring LRAD systems from Europe, the US or Russia. Just conjecture from a handful of smaller websites. Because again, Serbia can just make their own. They’re not complicated or expensive to make.

LRAD isn’t some super fancy tech. Don’t let them use this to spread anti-western bullshit and divide the movement. This is what Putin and his cronies want.

How LRAD works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7UZHEHhdek

And how to counter it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXKTBQBugIA

As someone who worked with the CryptoParty and trained Serbian journalists on OpSec and InfoSec, despite being surrounded by minders the entire time I was there, this makes me extremely happy! Keep up the pressure homies!

Mad.

Edit: They’ve edited both of their previous posts to re-frame the argument after the fact and removed a personal attack. Classy.

See my previous post…

It’s better to be safe than sorry is all I’m saying.

Also 3 separate cases have been posted above. Just continue ignoring those, I guess.

My brother and a buddy both have Alexas. And yeah, I hate being anywhere near the thing.

If no proof is offered (in either direction), then the proposition can be called unproven, undecided, inconclusive, an open problem or a conjecture.

Stating that you don’t think that it’s possible is irrelevant. It’s either happening or it isn’t. True or false. P or ¬P.

is extremely unlikely to be true in my opinion.

Is an argument from ignorance. Not trying to be rude, but this is basic logic.

Yeah, but it’s rooted and running a custom ROM ;)

This is why jailbreaking/rooting your phone is so important.

Argument from ignorance

It’s better to be safe than sorry is all I’m saying.

Edit: There’s also this.

This has always blown my mind. Watching people willingly allow Big Brother-esque devices into their home for very, very minor conveniences like turning on some gimmicky multi-colored light bulbs. Now they’re literally using home “security” cameras that store everything on some random cloud server. I’ll truly never understand.

The first rule of Usenet is: You don’t speak of Usenet. They like being kept off the radar, but braggers can’t help but bring it up every opportunity they get.

All mail is automatically forwarded then deleted. So the inbox is left empty (except the backups I’m keeping for possible legal coverage.)

I’ve been using Proton Mail for a few months now and I love it. Setting up auto-forwarding + delete is pretty simple in Gmail too. Then I set my phone to sync my “empty” accounts so that Google doesn’t delete them.