yeah back when the internet was good and idiots hadnt congregated on it yet.

have you bought their vpn service? ;)

All good friend.

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Lol sorry you were quoting yourself from 5 messages ago. Thought you were quoting me. And i never said i was from ireland (since im not). Nor does it matter in the context of the conversation were your from. My points still stand.

They (the Democrats) were told what was going to happen, they ignored it, and got absolutely crushed. I dont know what to say except the idiocy is astounding.

And anyone defending that position by saying how dare you not support harris because trump! Needs to stfu and do some self reflection. If trump is as bad as you say, well then maybe you should have told harris (and her supporters, especially you irish child) to stfu and just give the muslims what they wanted for the greater good.

The idea that the people saying ‘stop murdering us’ should stfu and get in line for the greater good is fucking hilariously selfish by the people telling them that.

The polls had been signaling for months that switching on gaza increased likely hood of voters voting Democrats by 30-40%. Well you saw what happened. So kindly fuck off. I live here and have to deal with the fallout of you idiots.

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Im sure if you think on it you’ll eventually figure it out.

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Because you’re being intentionally dense. their personal votes are what they are talking about. These are the people who fucking showed up and voted regardless of the shit campaign.

The genocide definitely cost harris Wisconsin and Michigan. 25 points right there.

For example: My state harris won, my vote third party jill, would have in no way changed the outcome here. As I’ve been informing everyone for two months. But harris is missing 20 million votes biden received. Where are they?

Why did these individuals not vote for harris?

maybe because shes been gaslighting america on live tv for years during the biden admin? Over biden’s mental acuity, over what was going on in gaza etc.

Maybe because she didn’t put forward a single decent economic policy to counter the absolutely shit perception of the biden admin?

Maybe, just maybe, people were so disgusted with her continued support of a genocide they fucking stayed home instead of voting for a gaslighting trash heap of a campaign?

You dweebs like to crow about the electorate having short memories. but the reality is that they actually have long memories and you can’t do the shit biden and harris have done and expect people to show up for you without a huge fucking carrot.

And you wouldn’t even contemplate that ‘hey the arabs just want us to stop murdering their friends and family. huh. maybe we should do that?’

So yes, continue thinking those like myself are at fault. I’m fine with your scorn. I don’t particularly care if you dislike me. Just remember that your support for a genocide just cost you multiple election cycles in Michigan and Wisconsin. THAT community is unlikely to forget what you, biden, harris, and the DNC did to them.

Now if anyone wants resources to look into anything I’ve said here and are open to working towards replacing the DNC feel free to reach out. always happy to connect with people who actually give a shit.

Michigan and Wisconsin, two states representing 25 pts. If you don’t look at the fucking margins in a neck and neck race, yeah you fucking lose. Harris failed to make any changes to policy throughout the campaign despite being underwater the entire fucking time.

This loss is entirely on her and the DNC.

We didn’t allow anything. harris failed to win our votes. direct your ire correctly. I’ve been telling you this for 2 months. you’re still failing at basic reasoning on how voting works.

Palestinians are dead either way unless harris committed to stopping israel. and she wouldn’t. she threw out the 25 electoral points Michigian and Wisconsin represent as a result. She failed to run a campaign on policies that would win her the election.

We don’t owe you dweebs anything. You repeatedly fail to realize that people won’t help you when you don’t help them. and the DNC hasn’t done shit for the working class or the arab community and they just fucking burnt a bridge that’ll likely be impossible to rebuild.

You want peoples support for ukraine, LGBT, etc? learn you need to build connections with others to get support. esp when you’re pet projects are also minority groups.

And a reminder: your jews for peace work is completely ineffectual when it comes to the president/congress supplying arms to israel. most of your work has ridden on the coattails of arab groups pushing their initiatives. So while stopping the settlement funding is a grand idea; by the time you managed to do it the palestinians would have already been dead or gone.

thats okay, you just need to look at harris and the dnc for your answers. apparently streams of articles, local representatives speaking up, members of the diplomatic core speaking out and they amazing decided that ‘yes, genocide is the answer to our electoral struggles’

it is definitely baffling in a tight race tossing 25 electoral points in the trash could be construed as a ‘good decision for palestinians.’ but here we are and thats what they did.

Now the world is going to suffer because of their hubris. enjoy. maybe next time tell your candidate to get a backbone to do the right thing and you need to grasp human nature.

go check out democracynow gaza section. maybe you can get some perspective on exactly how kamala/biden and general media have been gaslighting you. Everytime a hamas leader was murdered and harris would say ‘now we can achieve a ceasefire’ she was gaslighting you. a ceasefire with the release of hostages had been agreed to by hamas for months since may. Every time she said she would work towards a ceasefire, she was gaslighting you.

the palestinians were fucked no matter who won.

But harris had the option to potentially win if she was willing to:

1. throw biden under the bus policy wise.
2. commit to upholding american laws w/ respect to isreal.
3. commit to keeping kahn as head of FTC.
4. commit and campaign on actually fighting corporations.

but noooo. its the voters fault for harris being absolutely dog shit both morally and policy wise.

yeah shame that. maybe kamala should of thought about that before committing herself to a genocide joe allowed.

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I like how you flipped the script by blaming the group (the voters) and not the individual responsible (the DNC) for making the horrible decisions resulting in an ongoing genocide.

source

Please see yourself to any election results site for Wisconsin and Michigan, look at the results differential, look at the 3rd party votes, then go back the the primaries and look at the uncommited numbers from the primary.

Source? (Most dont vote)

See yourself to any american census page, find the adult population numbers, then look at the gross voters for this election. Do some basic math and you’ll end up with 25-30% of the voting population voted.

Are you an idiot?

Possibly but you most definitely are. You dont know basic well known facts about demographics of Michigan and Wisconsin, you ask for sources for literally common knowledge facts that are both widely reported and easily confirmed.

And no i didnt claim they were the exact same people you twit. I was pointing out he had relatively similar levels of total support in fucking aggregate. ~72mill.

Biden convinced a lot of swing voters due to COVID.

No, 20 million voters didnt show up this cycle because harris brought nothing to the tablento motivate them. In fact she mainly brought dismotivation via a genocide and lack of economic policies.

Token handle? Like JRR Tolkien? Did you have a stroke?

No, its the other person who responded to your absolutely trash of a post with a link to some polls.

Okay we’re done here. Nothing productive will be had with furthering a conversation with someone as uninformed, and in lacking basic reasoning skills as yourself.

And I’ve been telling people for years thats a terrible fucking saying as well. (Also notice how little play that saying had this cycle.) Statistically speaking you may have lost your arm but you’ll still have the ability to write and walk! Sorry left handies! Nothing can be done for you! (Left handies are the arabs in the gaza story, lgbt in others etc)

In no way am I downplaying the religious fanatic dangers.