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Came here to say this. GL.iNET is amazing

How would you propose government officials officially distribute verified information? Just for government officials and distribution, that’s the whole point of having a .gov domain is so you can know it’s official

Doesn’t this mean the law is working as intended?

Not really. Each instance gets to decide for themselves wether or not to defederate. It is an active choice that has to be made for those which federation is on by default.

In a room where Facebook/Meta controls the entire algorithm, who gets to see what, and any astroturfing efforts they make? And where the fraction of people who will ever see your post is so tiny as to be insignificant

If it’s either that or Im not in the space at all I’m going to take the option to try and expose the unwashed masses to the light of the fediverse.

By nature the fediverse is open. While I may not agree with exchanging my personal data to be sold to advertisersers in exchange for a fast browsing experience, if that’s how people want to engage with the fediverse how is that bad? Would it be the same if a large pay for access instance arose that required members pay a fee but gave a browsing experience similar to what a large company like meta could provide?

It seems to me, unless I am fundamentally misunderstanding the concept, that defederation is a tool of last resort. It does more harm to the individual instance by nature unless the instance is proven to be disruptful or full or bad actors. I get the company meta itself meets that category, but I’m not convinced it’s users or communities do. Defederation to spite an instance admin is only harmful to the instance doing the defederation.

If you really need to sell the idea of the Fediverse to Threads users, you can still make a Threads account, or spin up an instance for yourself to do that.

Idk if you noticed but I am on a private instance. There is no way in hell I’d create an account on a meta server. I’d prefer to interact with them from mine and that’s what I’ll do. It’s what makes the fediverse so great. And it’s why unless there’s a unified defederation camp again making it’s reasons and statements known, individual instances defederating with meta will have little effect. Basically we need to unionize and I don’t see that realistically happening at this stage, for better or worse.

But theyve got the numbers to support their own echo chambers. I’m not saying what meta is doing isn’t a threat, but isn’t it better to be in the same room as their users to have a conversation with them than have them exist in their own echo chamber thinking the fediverse is only what meta wants them to think it is?

I don’t think the average threads user would even notice if it’s a repost. They’d see the content, and have the interaction. From what I know, if I defederate with threads, a user subed to one of my communities would still have the meta server pull in content from mine. I’m fairly certain their engineers can make it look more organic and allow seamless interaction between the 30 million threads users.

It still seems to me because of this, we would be doing ourselves more harm by defederating. At least right now. Even in light of embrace, extend, extinguish.

Why wouldn’t they be able to interact with it, at least within their own ecosystem? The way I understand, if I defederate with them on my instance they can still see my content but I can’t see theirs. There’s nothing stopping Metta from taking that public data anyways and allow only their users to interact with it in their own sealed space. With how many users they have, it’s possible it wouldn’t even be noticed by the average threads user

As far as I’m concerned, this is the only correct answer. Audacity is the best software for audio editing.

The cynic in me thinks it’s to shed users to keep down operating costs

I can understand that too knowing the context. I personallay still think that article did was thought provoking enough to Garner discussion in the comments, which is half the point of a site like this.

But i agree, it’s why I made the post! This is something to be discussed as a community as we all escape reddit. This is the time to be ironing these things out. We need these discussions and rules to prevent a mod from feeling they need to ban someone for “drama”. Have clear defined rules agreed soon by the community and that problem is solved. Banning people trying to talk about getting a more clear ruleset in place is just asinine. Soon it’s only going to be that mod posting and nobody commenting.

I also get things may have been one way on Reddit, but that also doesn’t mean it automatically applies here. Even if it did it’s not hard to copy and paste rules from reddit to here.

Also, did I see in the modlog they ( @ValueSubtracted@startrek.website is lurking and should really learn this site is way more transparent than reddit) banned you too?

EDIT: Just checked the modlog. They banned you for making this post I’m replying to on a different instance. How anyone could not see that as a red flag of petty retributive mod abuse then I don’t know what is. For what it’s worth, I banned them from my (much smaller but hopefully gonna pic up some Trekkies soon) instance so they’ll never know what’s being missed 😜 of course I’d happily reverse it if they cool off and explain their actions.

I get that the admin has control. And yes, i love that we can just go off to another server and have the same discussion. However there is something to be said about having a centralized server for niche discussion like star trek. That’s what it seems they’re trying to accomplish anyway. There’s no rules or list of banned sites which i could totally understand. However, this comes entirely across as a petty mod not happy about something a site said once. The only purpose being so heavy handed with moderation like that is only going to splinter what was looking to be one of the most unified communities on the fediverse. It’s anthitical to what the instance is trying to accomplish, becoming a centralized spot for star trek related communities on Lemmy.

It’s amazing how much manufactured empathy you can buy with money