I’ve often found removed responses, which is a good thing, just makes my quest to find an answer harder.

Hey, not that I have sources and most likely not qualified to talk about this; But aren’t some of the hitpieces on the civilian casualities also been under hamas control?

There’s information on things being a genocide and also other information saying that hamas is using them as human shields?

Personally I don’t know what to think of Israels actions, since I am very confused about the happenings there. I agree on military action on hamas, but at the same civilian casualities should be kept to a minimum. If you have any more info to read?

Just some other points that I’ve read; Hamas vs Israel has been going on forever now, rockets being shot from gaza Hamas siphoning aid funds to buy/create weapons Hamas using headquarters mostly in populated areas, like hospitals to create propaganda?

Any information to counter whatever beliefs I have are more than welcome, I’d rather be educated on the matter. This post might seem pro-israel, but I decided to focus on the war, not Israel, which I do have major issues with.

Waited to reply so I’m not spreading misinformation in active threads lol.

Just curious, where does the ‘genocide’ come from regarding Israel? The stuff I’ve read usually points a very different picture.

Public companies obviously intentionally want to make everything as shitty as possible, just to extract money, but lets accept the hypothetical that subscriptions will actually be banned. Wouldn’t that be great?

You would basically be treated the same as Tier 1-3 ISP’s, pay for the cost of the routing to the company. That phone plan that costs ?? €/$ a month becomes “Pay as you use it”. Flat fee per gigabyte / message etc. These plans were at least here in Finland, and I think my phone bills were around 4-5 EUR a month and a cap that you cannot exceed that month, though smartphones and data plans weren’t a thing. Now everything is a subscription.

Now back to hardware vs software. You obviously pay for the software also when buying the hardware, but for whatever reason the user doesn’t own any kind of rights around it. This has obviously become much worse the past few years (TV’s have ads etc). I really don’t think that the issue is anything you listed, the issue is that greedy companies want to use the subscription model rather than play fair. Phones and modems are EOL at best in a year. I have a PFSense router that cost me less than a router from my ISP used and it’s EOL and security is something I don’t have to worry about.

Modems and routers have most of their features dedicated to home networking and are not usually made by the ISP. Them connecting to the internet is one of the smallest features they have. The other features are related to offline networking and tight security, you can actually just plug an ethernet cable to the wall and get connection from your ISP. Same as using a modem and putting it in “bridge mode”, which will completely bypass the features of the modem/router.

The issue here is that the companies don’t want to provide value, they just want to extract as much money as possible, which is wrong. Laws and regulations are desperately needed and even something as radical as banning subscription services for user devices would be a net positive. Renting Tier 1-3 operator infrastructure for your router/modem to work is completely different than “You have the device and the software, but we block you from using it, since you don’t pay”, which in my opinion is ransomware, not subscriptions.

For right to repair and owning these devices, I completely agree with you.

Just responding to the edit;

Modems work with other providers. You don’t own the infrastructure that connects the internet -> subscriptions.

Phones make it impossible to root or change batteries? I don’t own the device, byt at least it’s not e-waste yet.

The car thing you don’t own since the software makes the hardware e-waste.

it would be a ceramic regardless -> into the trash