That’s cool. I wonder if they’re planning an android version

I see you all over Lemmy being shitty. Blocking now

It sounds like you are making excuses for ppl. enjoy that ✌️

We should absolutely call them out on being hypocrites. These are people who vote against their own interests and against anyone’s interest who isn’t a billionaire. They do not care about the waste until it’s spent, ironically, helping poor people. But if a Republican wastes trillions on war or even raises their taxes, they’re as quiet as a mouse.

I wish it were as simple as you say. Republicans would never make into office again. But you’re entirely wrong about that simplicity

I’m not sure what your point is, but to reiterate, mine is that people are selfish and I think that’s a bad thing. I can’t tell if you think it’s a good thing or what.

The US spends money in awful ways. But these people don’t mention better ways to spend it. Only that their taxes are too damned high. they have no problem with billionaires paying a far lower percentage than they do…

Holy shit this is so true.

I am with you on this. Also when the effort requires feels so small relative to other situations, it hits me worse too

I agree this is a problem but I don’t think it’s more often than not.

Yep! And any examples of countries to have high tax rates but spend well are outright ignored. So annoying!

Yeah I feel you. Americans think that they’re allowed to park their dodge ram on a sidewalk because it feels “unsafe” to park on a suburban street 20 feet away. God forbid their chance of being sideswiped is non-zero, because who cares about pedestrians or disabled folks.

I say this as an American. A lot of us are bonkers-selfish.

Yep constantly! perfect example yesterday. Was waiting in line for ice cream. Some young girls ahead of me in line were talking amongst themselves. Worker tries to ask them what they want twice. The girls were completely oblivious to her or seemingly to the fact they were in line. I felt this worker’s pain but supported her reaction of rolling her eyes and then quickly proceeding to the next customer.

We obviously all have lapses in awareness but yeah it does sort of feel like it’s so common it’s endemic and maybe on the rise. Living in a touristy area accounts for some of it but even in the off season it’s crazy common here.

I’ll take this as an upfront admission that apple is not only opposed to standards but actively avoidant of them when it is profitable, rather than the deflection it was meant to be.

You seem knowledgeable enough to know that standards are usually contributed to by corporations and that this has many many times not ruined them. The whole web is built on this fact. But unfortunately your zealotry blinds you to what your priorities ought to be, standards for everyone’s benefit.

Again, point me to apple’s attempts to implement or help create a texting standard. Unless you’d like to instead say that standards are not an extremely important part of human society. Because unless you believe that, their actions are indefensible and that’s a separate issue from how fucked up Google is.

You’re ignoring the part where Google tried and carriers and apple refused… That’s not some irrelevant detail

Google attempted an open standard, carriers refused. Apple actively refuses to participate or help. Not sure why so many apple simps can’t ever acknowledge that standards are important. It’s likely if you look around you at any given moment, you’ll dozens of vital everyday products that are cheap or possible due to standards. The rest of computing is built heavily on standards. Standards === modern society. Yet apple can do no wrong if they explicitly dodge standards for profit.

Oh great, so then when will apple be releasing their open standard for secure and feature rich texting?

…waits decades…

Oh yeah that’s right, doing so would prevent them from pretending that things jUsT wOrKiNg is only something an apple product is capable of because any other product is obviously garbage.

We all know the reason apple often avoids standards is purely for profit. They do it knowing it is bad for their users. So let’s not pretend that privacy is all they care about. At least google attempted a standard. And yes Google sucks ass. But I have more respect for a company that believes in standards than one whose business model only works because they strategically avoid them

Why would they not be?

Thread winner 😂

I mean, for your logic to hold up at all, it requires ignoring a very real fact. A second hand phone was already purchased. That transaction was done already, and there exists no world in which if you don’t buy the second hand phone the seller will think “omg no one will buy this, guess I have to switch from Google forever”. Another person will absolutely buy it. But even if not, then it gets wasted, and I think the environmental impact being ignored here is a pretty crass move also. I’m not willing to sacrifice environmental concerns to send a message to Google. Honestly they absolutely know how many phones are running stock android so that number decreasing would “send the message” just the same without a phone potentially ending up in a landfill.