• SwampYankee@mander.xyz
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    1 year ago

    Bullcrap… I guess you didn’t know that Christian Zionism predates Jewish Zionism, did you?

    It doesn’t. The religious-academic roots of Zionism in both religions go way back. Jews were resettling from Europe to Ottoman Palestine in proto-Zionist migration as early as the 1500s.

    No - it isn’t. Comparing Israel to Apartheid-South Africa is actually softballing it.

    Well, then you should try reading the second part of that sentence before you have a heart attack from being so triggered.

    I can literally google Ben-Gurion and produce a laundry list of his quotes that demolishes your argument

    Yes, Ben Gurion is one of those hard-liners who is responsible for the deterioration of Arab-Jewish relations in the 1920s. I wouldn’t go so far as to say his views represented the whole of Zionism prior to or during WWI. The situation was salvageable until Britain gave up.

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      1 year ago

      Even Israeli historians will happily blow your garbage alt-history out of the water for you.

      “The idea of the Jews returning to their ancient homeland as the first step to world redemption seems to have originated among a specific group of evangelical English Protestants that flourished in England in the 1840s; they passed this notion on to Jewish circles.” - Anita Shapira

      Even right-wing Israeli historians doesn’t claim anything that can be called “proto-zionism” with a straight-face that existed before 1860, genius.

      Well, then you should try reading the second part of that sentence

      So which part of…

      No - it isn’t. Comparing Israel to Apartheid-South Africa is actually softballing it.

      …are you having a hard time comprehending?

      Ben Gurion is one of those hard-liners

      In other words… just a Zionist that was schooled in the white supremacism, antisemitism and colonialism of “western civilization” - just another bog-standard colonizer who happened to be Jewish.