"As the president of the United States, you have power to change the course of history, and the responsibility to save lives right now," the staffers wrote.

“As the president of the United States, you have power to change the course of history, and the responsibility to save lives right now,” the staffers wrote.

  • ikiru@lemmy.mlEnglish
    619·
    1 year ago

    Biden did not cause the problems in Gaza, what are you on about? He’s not the one in charge of Israel’s actions. I am not a fan of him or a fan of sending aid to them, but this is just overdramatic.

    No, he’s just the one supporting funding and arming Israel no matter what they do for decades and voting for him continued to enable Israel which inevitably led to this moment we’re at now.

    On top of that, if people didn’t vote for Biden then we would have Trump doing the same plus a bunch of other worse shit on top of that. We have two choices everytime. All people can do is vote for the lesser of two evils and that’s what they did. If you wanna throw away your vote and help the objectively worse party win a presidential election again, that’s on you, but most sensible people understand the choice we are forced to make thanks to our shitty system.

    Whataboutism.

    • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      124·
      1 year ago

      Whataboutism.

      the technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a different issue.

      The choice to vote for Biden is linked to the choice to vote against Trump. They can not be separated from one another. To do so is to be disingenuous. We live in a democracy with a two party system. The Republican party is disproportionally represented by our electoral system and win with low voter turn out.

      Since we can not separate the choice of voting for Biden and rejecting Trump, it is justified to bring up what Trump and the Republicans would do. If we want any chance of the US demanding a ceasefire then we need to reject the Republican party who will blindly support Israeli no mater what.

      • ikiru@lemmy.mlEnglish
        511·
        1 year ago

        You got what you voted for then. A whopping 4-hour daily ceasefire.

        Thanks for voting!

        • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          134·
          1 year ago

          I also avoided another disastrous four years under Trump. I can live with the choice to vote for Biden because everyone in the world will be worse off under Trump. So, you’re welcome.

          • ikiru@lemmy.mlEnglish
            23·
            1 year ago

            Yeah, it could be worse for those maimed Palestinian kids. They could be dead, like those other Palestinian kids. Great trade.

            • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              4·
              1 year ago

              Trump would have enabled and emboldened Israel’s government to kill more Palestinians. That would have been a worse outcome. There is no such thing as rock bottom. It can always get worse.

              • ikiru@lemmy.mlEnglish
                22·
                1 year ago

                So how many murdered Palestinians are an acceptable amount for you?

                • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                  31·
                  1 year ago

                  Certainly not 11 thousand. Why are more murdered Palestinians acceptable to you? Do you seriously think you’re going to guilt trip people into getting more people killed?

                  • ikiru@lemmy.mlEnglish
                    13·
                    1 year ago

                    Rather, it was supporters of Biden trying to guilt trip everyone into voting for him and now we see the consequence of it. You either voted or are defending those who voted for genocide, I haven’t done either. Next time I hope no one supporting Biden will feel morally superior to those who do not feel they can willingly support this kind of policy which only enables the freefall toward fascism both domestically and abroad.

                    If people like you feel comfortable with your choice in voluntarily voting for genocide-lite and will vote for it again, then I am just simply reminding you of the blood on your privileged hands. Deep down you know it is true.