Current-era Microsoft continuing to push the boundaries of consent.

Microsoft Edge is a good browser but for some reason Microsoft keeps trying to shove it down everyone’s throat and make it more difficult to use rivals like Chrome or Firefox. Microsoft has now started notifying IT admins that it will force Outlook and Teams to ignore the default web browser on Windows and open links in Microsoft Edge instead.

  • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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    I tried using outlook this year for the first time in 15 years, and immediately NOPED the fuck out when I noticed it displayed ads in-line with my inbox.

    And then there are those rumors that they want to display ads in the settings panel. Fuck Microsoft, they have ZERO trustworthiness in my book

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      I unfortunatelly have to use outlook and teams at work. If this really becomes the case, I will both write to EU regulators and try to petition our IT to move away from microsoft teams and potentially outlook.

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        If you work for an EU company using Outlook might be illegal, as they now send all emails unencrypted via their own servers.

        At our work place, which is mostly Linux, some people have been using outlook if they opt to use windows or Mac or android or iPhone. And when outlook started to send all emails via their own servers (not respecting your smtp settings and such), we instated a full ban on using all outlook clients on all platform.

        It’s really sad, as a Linux user I think outlook used to be the best email client period. Before this privacy hell and before adds in the program of course.

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          Hi. Do you have some documentation for the unencrypted mail part? Doesn’t sound very GDPR compliant depending on the information sent, off course.

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        Same for me. My company talks a big game, but is bad at audits or detection for authorized devices / unauthorized access.

        I wiped my work pc and ran linux daily for a year. Remina for remote management was far better than the native RDP client in Windows. Web based outlook got the job done. Teams app in Windows is just reskinned chrome anyhow. Works just as good in a browser. Had a remote box set up for any thing that absolutely required Windows.

    • Gmail does this too. I’m pretty sure my adblocker handles them on my PC but I see them on the mobile app all the time.

      We use o365 for work so I’m seeped in that environment already. I tried using o365 for my personal email for about 3 months and finally gave up and went back to gmail.

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            Its usually in the separate tab, the “promotion” tab, where they send most subscriptions emails. It’s not good, but it could be miles worse. Yahoo mail for example is a lot worse: you get Ads in the website taking away screen space unless you pay a premium

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              I don’t have a promotions tab either. Or any tab for that matter.

              Edit: I turned the tabs on, no ads in the promotions tab either. Maybe it’s not a thing in my country.

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              This is news to me, I don’t see any in my gmail account. I use adblock though. I also do not see any in the gmail app.

              email is an open protocol, there is absolutely no reason why an email client should get away with showing ads.

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                I see a couple of ad “emails” entries in my promotion side of the inbox, usually in the 3-4 rows, and I also use both adblock + uorigin. Again, not really disrupting, because its usually a section of the inbox I dont go into too much, but I can see it being annoying for others

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        I have never experienced this with Gmail, though I use ublock as you mentioned. I haven’t seen any through the gmail app on mobile either.

        Email is an open protocol, there’s no reason to continue using an email client (web or otherwise) that displays ads. I highly recommend you use something like thunderbird if this is your experience.

        Ads are pernicious no matter where they appear, but them being associated with any kind of personal communication is fucking nuts, I wish we wouldn’t normalize it.

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      Fuck Microsoft, they have ZERO trustworthiness in my book

      me in the 90s, the last time I gave them a cent or a moment

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      I have been using Outlook for over 15 years and it’s fine. I have never seen an ad in my inbox. Tips aren’t ads. Not sure what you are talking about. I’m running the latest build connected to an EXO mailbox.

      Email clients stop innovating 20 years ago. The strength of Outlook is the interoperability with other Microsoft apps. I am sure you think those are cancer, and that’s fine. lol

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          There is no free outlook. Windows mail replaced outlook express decades ago, and outlook.com is Hotmail not outlook.

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            Oh, you should know. Windows 11’s newest version lets you just have Outlook for free. You can just click a button in Mail and have the “new Outlook for Windows.”

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              I didn’t know, thats terrifying. We don’t allow Win11 in our company. Only Win10. Everyone is on paid outlook connected to our orgs cloud exchange. Unfortunately we will never stop supporting MS. Lucky I don’t have to deal with that stuff anymore as dev ops.

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              it looks like an outlook skin for mail. It is not proper outlook, and I could ne er see them giving it away since it costs users like $100 a year.

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        Outlook on windows 11 absolutely has ads in the inbox, though I understand you may not have windows 11 or installed the free outlook through the windows 11 upgrade.

        “It’s fine” was always my experience when I used outlook through work. Thunderbird can also be integrated with microsoft programs, i’m not sure why its interoperability is such a standout feature for you. But having advertisements masquerading as unopened mail within my inbox is absolutely not fine.