• Brainsploosh@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Oh, that’s easy, for Russia it’s crucial for reasons… it was something about de-nazification, or was it to stop NATO expanding? No, no, it’s to defend against the aggression of The West!

      That’s why Russia has to occupy Ukraine!

      For Ukraine, they mostly seem to have a bee up their butt about Russian troops occupying, torturing, kidnapping, displacing and murdering Ukrainians on Ukrainian soil.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Because Vladimir Putin can’t accept the fact that the Soviet Union is dead and gone?

    • aelwero@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Soviet Union was big, included many states. Socialist economy imploded, Soviet Union became Soviet non-union. States declared sovereignty as independent countries (mass brexits, kinda?).

      Russia, who used to be able to socialize assets from all the smaller countries, wants to be able to socialize the assets again, and as a bonus, is salty because some of those countries are hooking up with NATO, which is by and large a union of capitalism…

      Instead of trying to create a union again, and getting others to join via diplomacy or negotiation, Russia is just trying to press its neighbors into joining the reformed union via military occupation, and hit a slight snag with Ukraine, because all this shit is a little too recent for Ukraine to have forgotten how shitty a lada is.

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        10 months ago

        Also like to add that Ukraine was on a good trajectory and had zero reason to give up its independence. Strong tech industry, agriculture, etc.

        The only way Russia was going to get it back was violently.

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          10 months ago

          And that in itself was another reason to invade. A free and prosperous western-facing Ukraine might cause the Russian masses to begin wondering why they can’t have that too. Putin cannot abide that.

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        10 months ago

        Thank you for making a serious and accurate reply to a pretty silly post. For real. Others may see it that actually do not understand what it’s all about.

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        10 months ago

        Hey hey hey, I hate imperialism and Putin as much as the next guy but the Lada Niva was actually kind of neat.

    • otp@sh.itjust.works
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      10 months ago

      Are you in Russia or Ukraine? Or maybe you’re in a different conflict. But I don’t know why you’re fighting.