I’m not from the US, so I’m curious why Americans still wants him back. I always see him as a bad mouthed guy and was worse when he lost in 2020. But feel free to change my mind. This question is also for non-trump supporters who can think of one thing (if you can) on why he’s good for the top position.

  • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
    23·
    3 months ago

    The statement immediately above was evidence.

    You’re confusing your opinion with evidence. Sorry to tell you, but it doesn’t work that way.

    No. The opposite is true, obviously.

    Oh really? So you have empathy towards hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians that died in the war, and also wish for war to end as soon as possible, and therefore support Trump who is the only politician who promised to end the war? Well, in that case what are we even arguing about :)

    You are requesting evidence of a negative

    I am requesting evidence of your arguments. If you argue something that you can’t prove, then your argument is by definition invalid.

    • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
      2·
      3 months ago

      You’re confusing your opinion with evidence.

      This statement is deception. I used your words as evidence. Your words are clearly not my opinion.

      I am requesting evidence of your arguments.

      This statement is manipulation based on deception. You asked me to prove that you do not have empathy for those not in your in-group. It is foundational to the basic human understanding of reality to know that it is impossible to provide evidence of the absence of something beyond the absence of the evidence of its existence. This is an informal logical fallacy called “Argument from Ignorance”. I provided a statement based on the Absence of Evidence and you replied by demanding the Evidence of Absence. This is a bad faith argument on your part.

      • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
        23·
        3 months ago

        Omg, it’s really impossible to argue with you :/

        In a dozen messages we’ve exchanged, you provided exactly 0 evidence of what you’re trying to prove, exactly 0 quotes of me that prove any of your points and exactly 0 valid arguments.
        It’s impossible to continue this discussion :(

        • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 months ago

          you provided exactly 0 evidence of what you’re trying to prove

          Your dissenting opinion does not disprove my evidence.

          exactly 0 quotes of me that prove any of your points

          This is manipulation based on deception. I used multiple quotes of your comments as evidence against you. You have just decided that they do not “prove any of (my) points”. Your opinion is irrelevant.

          and exactly 0 valid arguments.

          Another manipulation based on your personal opinion that the evidencr I provided was not sufficient to change your mind. My goal, however, has never been to change your mind. My goal has been to allow you to illustrate the deception, manipulation and bad faith discussion one should always expect from a conservative.

          It is not possible for a conservative to enter a debate in good faith, as every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation.