In the latest round of the dispute between Elon Musk and Brazil’s top court, a senior judge has accused X of a “willful, illegal and persistent” effort to circumvent a court-ordered block – and imposed a fine of R$5m ($921,676) for each day the social network remains online.
The social media platform formerly known as Twitter, which has been banned by court order since 30 August, on Wednesday became accessible to many users in Brazil after an update that used cloud services offered by third parties, such as Cloudflare, Fastly and Edgeuno.
This allowed some Brazilian users to access X without the need for a VPN – which is also prohibited in the country.
Late on Wednesday, X described its reappearance in Brazil as an “inadvertent and temporary service restoration to Brazilian users”.
But the influential supreme court justice Alexandre de Moraes – who ordered the original ban as part of an attempt to crack down on anti-democratic, far-right voices – on Thursday described the move as a deliberate attempt “to circumvent the court’s blocking order”.
No, that is why countries have extradition treaties, extradition hearings and/or sign up to other treaties. To make sure law is respected across borders but not simply abused by bad actors.
This also goes for bad actor sicophants that repeatedly and knowingly break a Brazilian law they don’t agree with and then thumb their nose at their legal system.
And even without these treaties it’s known to happen. Examples: The Netherlands does not have an extradition treaty with Dubai, but when the most wanted man of the Netherlands was verified to be there, the Dubai police arrested him, drove him to the airport and chucked him into a Dutch government plane waiting at the airport. That’s the downside of hiding in a country that does not care about individual rights… of their chief decides you should be “not here” they kick you out… no due process, nothing. And just recently the kid of the same guy… also very wanted was found and brought to the Netherlands in the same fashion.
Do you really think America will extradite Elon to Brazil over what amounts to a Free Speech argument?
It’s not. Twitter needs to appoint a representative in brazil, according to their law. Twitter refuses this… An this caused the fine.
It is though, the whole problem started when Twitter refused to deplatform the current governments political rivals. They then began ignoring the government.
It should not be illegal nor extraditable to not want to do business in Brazil.
It isn’t illegal or extraditable to not want to do business in Brazil. But Twitter wanted to do business there while ignoring a ruling from the Brazilian high court… and that won’t fly. They fought the ruling through the courts and ended up with an unfavorable final verdict and decided… nah fuck them judges and their Brazilian law. That’s when you cross the line into stuff that will get you fined, blocked and should get you extradited.
Edit: afaik the accounts that should have been banned, one was used to invite the military to rise up against the government, the other doxxed a police officer investigating the issue of the account advocating the military rise up. Both accounts where requested shutdown as part of these investigations.
Brazil has laws against dangerous lies. Just like the UK has serious libel laws.
Just because the dangerous lies were coming from a good friend of Bolsenaro does not mean they’re legal in Brazil.