• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    That’s because this isn’t a breed specific problem. Unless that breed is Human. Humans can fuck up any dog on purpose or not and the shitbags who like this breed specifically because it has a reputation will just choose a new breed to fuck up after you ban this one. This has been the pattern of Breed Specific Legislation everywhere it’s been introduced. You can do all of the same aggressive training with a Golden Retriever. And the list of dogs known to have a protective streak is as long as my arm.

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        1 year ago

        That is hilarious. But there is a real problem here. It’s like we just transferred systemic racism to dogs. We create the problem in the stats and then blame the dogs that were abused to do it.

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          It’s like we just transferred systemic racism to dogs.

          I actually saved this into a list of ignorant comments I keep. Is easily top ten material. Comparing the banning of pit bulls to the result of the slave trade is a hell of a comment. Congratulations?

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            Not to say I agree with him but he didn’t compare those two things at all. He said it’s the same mentality that underlies racism and ‘breedism’ for lack of a better word.

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              1 year ago

              Comparing people to dogs is fucked up. Asian, latinos, etc aren’t “breeds”. There’s also the implication of certain races being more prone to committing crimes. Honestly, both of you stink like racists.

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                You’re completely missing the point of an analogy. No one is comparing humans to animals. What’s similar is the thought process behind arriving at both conclusions. We could be talking about humans, animals, cars… the subject doesn’t matter, it’s the thought process that’s the same.

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            I’m sorry, you think systemic racism stopped when we outlawed most slavery?

            Screw the dogs, tell me more about this utopia you live in without modern day systemic racism.

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          1 year ago

          I have a dream where Pitbulls and Chihuahuas can play in the same dog park together.

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            Dude Chihuahuas are never going to be welcome in the big dog part of the park.

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            1 year ago

            Whoosh. The point is we enable these shitty owners who encourage aggressive behavior then we blame the dog when we set the system up that way.

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              I mean ban shitty owners from owning another animal, put them in jail for animal abuse, fuck do both. But there is a huge difference in damage between a pitbull attack and say a greyhound.

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                They were bred for showing off muscles. Doing damage when angry is a trait of all wildlife.

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                  My greyhound looks like it has had a constant supply of steroids for the last 5 years. You don’t need to buy a death machine for muscles

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                    Greyhounds are closer to death machines than they are family pets. They are literally bred to chase things down and kill them. A badly trained or abused Greyhound is a nightmare.

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      Not sure why people downvote this, it’s objectively correct. We bred these dogs to be what they are, we can absolutely breed something else to take its place. This is really basic evolution and trait selection.

      I think they’re great looking dogs, but I also think they need a similar ban in the US, barring a few highly specialized breeders, who can essentially reverse what was done to them over a period of generations. I don’t want to see them go away entirely, I’d just like them controlled until we can breed out what we’ve bred in.

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        It’s not even that’s much to do with the breeding. They are very trainable dogs with a prey drive. They just get shit owners who encourage the aggressive behavior because of the street rep. They’ll do the same thing with Boxers, Dobermans, Rottweilers, and generally any short haired breed that looks muscular.