This is super dumb.
How are these morons so offended about the name of a body of water?
Their fragile ego is so completely shattered because Mexico “has a Gulf” and they “don’t”? Little men with too much power.
California should just change Gulf of California to Gulf of Mexico
Funny, but very confusing for people out of the loop.
The loop is broken and spilling loop juice all over at this point
Ultimate pettiness, show of power, or misdirection from other, more concerning news.
Could be all at of those or something entirely different, but it sure is pathetic.It’s misdirection and makes any laws or regulations specifically mentioning the Gulf of Mexico no longer apply since “tHeRe iSnT a gULf oF mExIcO.”
You see, I don’t think it would invalidate any laws… I suppose it would be subject to whatever judge is making the call, but I would imagine that any judge that’s rational and logical would take into effect the concept behind the law, not just it’s specific wording as it currently applies.
I hope that anyone looking at a law, written when that specific body of water was named “the Gulf of Mexico” and determine that, since it was called that at the time of the law being passed, that the law applies to the body of water that is, or was, known as “the Gulf of Mexico” at the time it was written, and the law continues to apply to that physical place, regardless of any changes in name.
But that might be a bit too logical, and I might be expecting a lot from the US Justice system… Or any Justice system for that matter.
This is so pathetic by Google.
They all bend the knee. Just wait until the persecution of political opposition becomes a thing.
Has nothing to do with bending the knee. The executive order literally changed the official name of the Gulf in the U.S. This situation is ridiculous, but it is the new U.S. government that you need to complain about, not the people implementing or deferring to their decisions.
Do. Not. Comply.
Giving in is what gives them the power.
I absolutely will call out people who think it’s ok to just go along with the new fascist regime.
Not legal
Obama renamed Mt. McKinley to Denali by executive order. Trump is using executive order to rename it back.
Biden outlawed oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Trump used executive order to rename it so the Gulf of Mexico “doesn’t exist”. (EDIT: Actually the naming appears to be unrelated to this. The drilling ban was specifically reversed in a different executive order that reversed several Biden EOs)
It’s all questionable use of executive order. But which party is going to step up and say “the last guy did it, but our guy shouldn’t be able to ignore checks & balances anymore”?
The difference is that it’s intentional waters and the International Hydrographic Organization is in charge of standardizing the names.
The IHO proposes names which world nations may or may not use.
Such is the case with the “Southern Ocean” around Antarctica since the early 2000s, which is randomly recognized & not recognized by world nations.
It still requires Congress to pass legislation. I think they would have to leave the organization entirely or amend the resolution to join it and recognize it’s naming convention. The executive order is illegal.
Actually very little of the gilf falls into international waters
gilf
I’ve heard of MILFs… but i’ve only seen GILFs in Japan. That’s not the geography we’re discussing here.
A line joining Cape Catoche Light (21°37′N 87°04′W) with the Light on Cape San Antonio in Cuba, through this island to the meridian of 83°W and to the Northward along this meridian to the latitude of the South point of the Dry Tortugas (24°35’N), along this parallel Eastward to Rebecca Shoal (82°35’W) thence through the shoals and Florida Keys to the mainland at the eastern end of Florida Bay and all the narrow waters between the Dry Tortugas and the mainland being considered to be within the Gulf.
Biden outlawed oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico. Trump used executive order to rename it so the Gulf of Mexico “doesn’t exist”.
I’d be very surprised if all laws/treaties cease to exist if you just rename the “counterparty”/location. Declare Mexico to be named South Texas, and laws no longer apply there?
Probably true.
But until a court actually steps up to say it, it’s the Wild West out there. And as soon as this gets shot down, another executive order will get wedged back in there to keep the rigs drilling.
EDIT: Apparently the naming had nothing to do with drilling. The drilling ban was already specifically reversed in a different executive order that reversed several Biden EOs
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International bodies of water tend to be named by… International governing bodies.
That said, Google’s choices about which country to rely on has… Some real-world ramifications. Like the very… shall we say, “open to interpretation” border between India and Pakistan. Or, China and India’s border.
Everyone report an error every day.
Give it negative reviews
Why? Google does this everywhere because naming is completely arbitrary and it makes sense to be up to date with current nomenclature. Poland changed name of Kaliningrad (Russian exclave that we border) to Królewiec (what it was called when it was part of Poland) in a similar manner to troll Russians and Google updated our maps as well. Apple didn’t in either case so you have options.
Weird, google maps still shows it as Kaliningrad, along with the Cyrillic spelling.
It’s local, same as Gulf of America which is still Gulf of Mexico for me because that’s the official name here.
The Cyrillic still is Kaliningrad lol
They get away with it because we never bothered to learn those moon runes.
Almost spit my coffee out lol Dzięki za to. Pozdrawiam zza oceanu.
Two reasons. Firstly, it’s the principle of the thing - fuck Google for sucking up to Orange Shitler. Secondly, because somebody, somewhere in Google gets to deal with the endless reporting - even if all that reaction is is to have to write a script to auto-ignore that exact thing because it keeps popping up and there’s nothing they can do to stop it.
Why would Google make an exception to their global policy? Is it because America is special?
iirc it was not just to troll rusians, it was because it was found kalinin was a murderous psycho killing a lot of poles for the red army.
You underestimate our need to troll Russians.
“Completely arbitrary trolling”.
Following whatever is the official version of country names and even country borders based on user location has been the thing for many years now. Google probably doesn’t care and doesn’t make the exception for the US.
Keep reporting it as a bug.
There’s little point in doing so, other than the feel-good moment. Google, and all other mapping companies, ultimately take their data from official sources. This differs per country, so users of maps from outside of the US will continue to see Gulf of Mexico, but complaining that it is wrong will only be ignored because they’re following the data from the official US government source.
They never fix bugs in maps. Some places IRL even got renamed, because it was easier than fixing the name in google maps.
Do you have any examples? It’s impossible to find with a search with the recent news.
Sorry, unable to find it now either and my memory fails me. There’s a chronically mislabeled place near where I live, but I don’t want to doxx myself. So, please have this vaguely related fun story instead: https://www.thesun.ie/news/14465782/ghost-aldi-supermarket-tourists-lorry
well google always displays the locally official names and borders. so just business as usual.
but why does the president of the usa get to decide what places are called? isn’t there a cartography department or something?
Yes. The United States Board on Geographic Names is the group within the Department of the Interior which handles these matters. They are a part of the executive branch. I suspect that you can follow a chain of delegated authorities through that board, up the civil service hierarchy, landing on the desk of the President.
This is an example of the system not accounting for, or being ambivalent about, the election of someone to that office with a fascist ideology.
fair enough. i guess the usa never did a great job ar limiting their presidents power. that way he can extend his reach way further down, than he should…
If all he with his remaining term is just randomly rename stuff, I think we will consider ourselves to have gotten off lightly.
They should change it to Gulf of $30 Eggs.
Can’t imagine wanting to work for big tech these days lol. These companies had insane reputation in the 2010s. People thought working for Google was like working in willy wonka’s chocolate factory. They really squandered their brand.
“Don’t be evil”
What about we be evil anyway?
i think when they rebranded as alphabet, they repealed that corporate philosophy.
Turns out evil is profitable.
Sadly though this was never going to be avoided, sure they’re leaning hard into conservative cult nonsense, but they were still on a downword optics trajectory. Its impossible not to have this happen in capitalism, it will always be inevitable that enshitifcation happens to milk profit from anywhere it can, and that will always look bad.
Wildly, people still think that about working at Apple, for now. I do see that changing slowly too though.
Pathetic. Hopefully the rest of the world doesn’t follow suit. Renaming it just for one of Trump’s ego trips is not a good reason.
The rest of the world obviously will not follow suit, but foreign companies selling maps in the US will have to comply, so it is just another exception that need to be handled. Naming and boundary disputes between countries have existed for years, and map makers just make enough versions to satisfy every country.
Actually, I’m unclear on that point - do foreign companies actually have to comply, or is it just limited to government communications and government-published maps (e.g. the USGS, etc.)?
Google are doing it to kiss Trump’s incontinent ass.
Only if the maps will be accessed from the US or sold in the US, and only for the US. This is my understanding of it anyways, the coming days will reveal more
Surely I am allowed to sell fictional maps? If I can sell a map of Middle-Earth, I can sell a map of a fictional world where a Gulf of Mexico exists.
I cannot believe they bent on this at all. This isn’t the will of the people or a problem we asked to solve it is the asinine rantings of a fucking baby. Why the fuck am I stuck in this timeline holy shit.
I’m trying to work out who this is for. Presumably his fan club will approve, but I don’t think it was something that even they were particularly asking for.
This idea originated as a Stephen Colbert joke in 2010. As always I’m sure some will call this some sort of self-aware troll by Trump, but what are the odds of that.
Given Colbert took the absurdity of conservatism in the US and cranked it up to 11… I’m not surprised it’s becoming reality now.
One of my favorite funfacts about the Colbert Report is that many conservatives couldn’t tell it was satire.
So much so that Colbert earlier on was regularly invited to things like White House Dinner with Bush and Conservative Conferences. Even when he ended the show he claimed he had a lot of fan mail from Republicans saying they’d miss “Having a sane voice of reason on an otherwise liberal media network.”
Some Conservative Subreddits even had to have guidelines explaining he was satire, some claiming he was a straight up “Left Wing Disinformation Agent!”
That’s incredible.
I was quite conservative back in 2006, having been raised that way and still years away from my “enlightenment,” but I knew Colbert was satire. I still thought he was hilarious. I’ve always thought it’s important to be able to laugh at yourself.
Bush clearly felt the same, he was laughing right along with the roast, and had just finished doing a bit with a Bush impersonator that also roasted him.
But Trump is incapable of humility, and cannot stand the traditional presidential roast at the Press Correspondents’ Dinner.
Another day another issue that completely doesn’t matter at all to distract from the fact that our politicians are incapable of actually fixing any of our problems.
incapable of actually fixing
Or making them worse. He just upped taxes on the lower classes and gave the rich tax breaks… again.
Draining the swamp!
politicians are incapable of actually fixing any of our problems.
They’re not incapable, they just don’t care. They’re your problems after all, not theirs.
Politicians are more than capable of solving our problems. They’re paid not to.
I think you’re overestimating humans. Even if we actually attempted to solve all of our problems I seriously doubt we can. I do wonder how much better things could be though.
I do wonder how much better things could be though.
What are you talking about? Oligarchs are living their best lives right now. Trump is in office and there is nothing that is not up for sale. If you have big money right now, the US is your oyster. Bend the knee, kiss the ring and grease the palm. You’ll walk away with your own fiefdom. Pay a bit more and he’ll rent an office in the White House.
What the hell. No one’s going to call it the Gulf of America, except for the magas, the rapist and his useless offspring.
This is 4 years of drivel and it’ll always be knows as the Gulf of Mexico.
The man in charge is the biggest moron to ever be given power to lead.
Electing a rapist seems like a very American thing to do, who also married an immigrant, which is very odd since he’s doing his best to stop immigration.
Something something racist rapist hypocrite.
Only hot and or under aged immigrants are acceptable. Specially if they have big natural boobs because that means new Americans with big natural boobs. I think penis-wise probably they might consider 8" and longer but must be very girthy. What do I know, I’m not a rapist politician. I could be totally wrong.
Reminds me a lot of after 9/11 when they tried to change French Fries to Freedom fries. That stuck about as well as water on teflon.
Anytime I hear someone complain about cancel culture I bring up freedom fries.
Yeah, I’ve been meaning to switch to OpenStreetMaps for a while now and this was the impetus to drop what I was doing and download it immediately. Fuck Google. So sick of this mask off tech plutocracy bullshit.
Edit: I’ve tried it a few times yesterday and today, and I like it. Works with Android Auto in my car, guidance voice isn’t annoying, directions are accurate. Only complaint is I’m not sure how to search up a business and have the app map me to the nearest location. I need to dig deeper and figure out if I just haven’t found it yet.
I would 100% drop GMaps if I could hit the directions button on a Google search and have it bring up OSM instead. Google Maps has been bugged for me for years and the maps app never gets the address from a browser search. I have to search for the business or address in the maps app itself for it to work.
The gulf of mexico vs gulf of america thread on the Open Street Map forum is interesting and worth a read.
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571
The discussion seems to be focused around possibly waiting for one or more governing bodies to rule on the name change, or just going along with it and adding an alternate text for people who would prefer the old one, which I think is way more democratic than anything Trump had in mind when signing this XO.
I certainly prefer this over the blind deference that Google seems to have for an executive order that is functionally just direction to the state department and not legally binding in any way whatsoever.
Well the openstreetmap community aren’t employed by a bunch of hacks perching on a tower of cardboard held together by a failing scheme of duck tape that nobody left after all the layoffs and enshittification knows how to repair, so that makes sense : )
Why is it that when Prez Asshole farts from his mouth, so many race to inhale the stench and call it a rose?
One of my favorite lines from early on in trumps rise to cult leader was “Conservatives would let Trump shit in their mouth just to watch liberals become disgusted”
I always heard it “…as long as a liberal had to smell it.”
Yeah you’re right, I couldn’t remember the exact wording only the general sentiment, so i went with something close enough lol
They proved that by wearing nappies…
