Tuta is a end-to-end-encryption mail and calendar provider. They recently wrote a good blog-post about changing to european services.

  • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I really dislike Tuta for their refusal to support SMTP/IMAP and PGP, let alone CalDAV or CardDAV. Posteo’s approach is way better.

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        Web apps.

        For reference I work for a competing mail provider and the majority of our users don’t use SMTP or IMAP, instead exclusively using the web app.

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        Personally never had to use either protocol, what’s your use case? - genuinely curios.

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          Using Thunderbird as opposed to tuta’s quite barebones client:

          • delayed messaging
          • message scheduling
          • local backup of mails
          • no email import
          • desktop app failures (happens quite often to me that I just can’t log in)

          Not to mention other external QoL functionalities like a home assistant tablet being able to display a family calendar and being able to automate based off of events

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            Defo some good points here that I had not thought of, am too used to using webclients. Though Tuta does have an mail import feature.

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            Tuta’s discount is tempting, but I’ve also seen StartMail doing 50% off lately. Definitely feels like a good time to test a couple out, especially if you care more about UX than just encryption.

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              Sadly, no calendar on startmail which is a non-starter for getting my family on it.

              Seems to be nothing really with mail + calendar + encryption + IMAP from a smaller company.

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                Not sure if it’s encrypted,b but mailbox.org has email + calendar + I can add it to K-9 and Geary (so I think it does support IMAP?)?

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                    I have been using mailbox’s light (1€/month) tier, which doesn’t include the calendar, so I can’t really tell you about its quality.

                    What I can tell you though, is that it has worked great with K-9 and Geary and everyone I have emailed has recieved it and it hasn’t gone to any spam folders or such.

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      Posteo has no custom domain support, deal breaker for me. As far as I understand they don’t support IMAP in order to keep their encryption working, and I believe others like Proton do the same thing. Since their webapp is good and they even have an official client on Fdroid, I don’t think it’s a big deal

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      Just started a test subscription with posteo… I’m rather disappointed they don’t allow to view the email previews in vertical columns. Their layout is horizontal only and can’t be changed. It’s a very small pet peeve, but i wasn’t expecting not being able to change that :(