Hey there
Was wondering if there were any serious research papers of discussions to really established and prove some modern art stuff was not made by AI
a non subjective way of labeling it as such, something secured or sure
For visual art, music, whatever
I know you are looking for papers so it is probably yhr latter, but I started typing and refuse to stop babbling.
Are you talking about art you create or to verify works you have come across?
If you are making it, document the process. Easy to prove something when the steps are shown, like screenshots of work in progress or photos of the setup before taking a photgraph which AI can’t reliably recreate.
If it is something else, it will be like photoshop where there are or will be some telltale signs to looks out for when observing in fine enough detail. Like currently a lot of AI art has the number of fingers peoblem but also has problems with getting lighting consistent in different ways than humans tend to. A lot of written text has some telltale features as well.
But proving something is human created and definitely not AI is hard because we use a lot of tools that could be mistaken for AI if the tools have complex algorithms. Something made in photoshop bynaltering a photo by a human with intentional actions might end up looking like AI for example. Same with music.
Is it? I thought we could just look for the soul and/or intention in the art? Because as everyone on Lemmy knows and is always saying, AI art isn’t art because it lacks both soul and intention. Therefore, it should be easy to tell it apart from real proper human art. Shouldn’t it?
Just look for the boop beeps in it, obvs.
You’re barking your sarcasm up the wrong tree
Am I, indeed? In my view, either AI art is nothing like human art in which case it’s easy to distinguish, or it’s similar enough that it’s not easy to distinguish, in which case it’s got to be at least very similar.
There’s no middle ground here, you can’t logically hold the belief they’re obviously fundamentally different but hard to distinguish from one another.
If you disagree with that and want me to agree with you, you’re gonna have to tell me why it’s wrong. Sorry, I don’t just change my mind at “nuh-uh” 🤷
Indeed, your proposed dichotomy is perfectly logical and I agree with that.
My point is that OP already stated it’s hard to tell the difference. That’s precisely why they made the post in the first place. So why are you asking all these questions about whether or not it is easy to tell apart or not? You already had your answer from the beginning.
Now, if OP had contradicted themselves at any point, saying for example “ai slop is so unlike human mediocre art, you can totally see the soul in art” or " AI can’t do anything similar to fine art" and then immediately asked “but how can you guys tell apart because it’s so difficult” then your reply would have made sense.
I hope that makes it clear.
Oh, I see, you took my comment as directed at OP. Not so. As mentioned there is a strong current of anti-AI sentiment on Lemmy, and it’s often in the vein of “there’s no soul” etc. I was taking aim at that in the context of OP’s comment (because it raises an excellent point), not OP themselves.