As in, not known to you IRL.

I’ve occasionally brought it up before, but a while back in my reddit days I was in a thread where a “professional deprogrammer” had popped in and was talking about how to “deprogram” conservatives and get them to shift left in their views. It centered around restoring their sense of community and belonging with more balanced viewpoint folks IRL and away from their online echo chambers.

I asked them if they had any way to convert someone you encounter wholly online and they said that it was basically impossible, IRL you have a decent chance, but not online.

I’ve been thinking about that quite a bit, so now I’m curious if anybody here has actually gotten an online conservative to come to the dark side light side?

  • faythofdragons@slrpnk.netEnglish
    50·
    3 days ago

    I’m in the middle of pulling a chat friend out of his programming. His only real problem was being raised in Texas by a Good Ol Boy single father, and once he got out from under his dad’s wing, he started to realize that what he was taught simply isn’t lining up with reality.

    He started out as an incel, but now he’s in therapy and has a girlfriend.

    I think of it less as ‘converting’ and more just holding his hand while he figures out that his dad’s advice was complete horseshit. It takes forever, and not everybody has the spoons to pull it off, but I do, so I will.

    • rice@lemmy.orgEnglish
      71·
      3 days ago

      a man of high logic, far easier to convert than majority of them.

      • Distractor@lemm.eeEnglish
        24·
        2 days ago

        Your bias is showing. Intelligence isn’t necessary to be left wing. Change is hard for everyone and requires emotional intelligence, not IQ.

        • rice@lemmy.orgEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          No it isn’t & I didn’t say anything about IQ.

          He said

          he started to realize that what he was taught simply isn’t lining up with reality.

          to realize this is a man of high logic

          • Distractor@lemm.eeEnglish
            23·
            2 days ago

            Please could you define what you understand by “high logic”?

            Personally, I’m only familiar with “higher-order logic” as defined in maths. So for me, someone with “high logic” has the ability to interconnect and solve complex problems, which is one of the key skills measured by IQ tests.

            Realising your beliefs and reality do not align doesn’t require complex logical reasoning, so for me the statement you quoted doesn’t mean high logic.