Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.
Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion
Edit2: IP= intellectal property
Edit3: sort by controversal
Your username suits you at least.
Quite a typical response because no one is forcing you to do or change anything. It’s still very much a choice. Even if it actively negatively contributes to both animal welfare and the earth existence.
You can debate how far one should go in veganism, but I think it’s hard to defend the stance that there should be NO change of course in the current (intensive) animal factory farming scene. There really are no winners and humans don’t realize how the system also makes life worse for them in the long run.
You can deny it, and try to use strawmen reasoning to the debate, but realize it makes you seem uneducated on the matter.
That being said, you do you, I won’t change your stance and you won’t changeine. I simply gave my opinion in this thread.
We made an unspoken promise to the animals we domesticated: If you provide for me and my family, I will ensure your line never fades from this world
It is unethical to abandon that promise, and the extinction of a species may be the single greatest wrong mankind can commit.
If you compare the health of wild animals to domestically cared for animals, you will obviously see that domesticated animals are healthier and have greater opportunities for enrichment and happiness under human care.
Yes there are vile humans who torture and keep animals in miserable conditions, and they should pay consequences for their cruelties and greed
Don’t you dare paint every farmer with that same corporate battery farm brush.
I am not here to change your stance, I’m here to mitigate the dangerous attitudes your poorly considered stance engenders in others.
I am not fully going to reply to your statement, because the user below did so very clearly already.
Just remember, none of these conversations are centered around YOU or your situation. It’s about the planet as a whole.
Without trying to insult you, it sounds like cognitive dissonance is at play here.
And I’d like you to quote the place where I said this was ‘my’ situation.
What a pathetically transparent attempt to slide the conversation.
You might not literally have said so, but you replied with a very defensive stance about your situation, unsolicited. This implicitly made it about yourself.
You sound quite upset about this, but there’s no need to. I am just an internet stranger.
Anyway, have a pleasant day!
Dozens of species go extinct every single day, in large parts due to deforestation for animal agriculture. Acting like keeping a handful of species we eat from extinction is somehow noble is silly by contrast. The concept of a species is a human construct in the first place, individual animals don’t care that their species (which isn’t even natural, we bred them like this) is kept going.
It’s not about if those animals live under animal agriculture or in the wild. The animals in the wild already exist, the ones in captivity wouldn’t exist at all, if we didn’t breed them.
Most animal meat nowadays comes from factory farms. Worldwide it is roughly 90%, in the US it is 99%.
Um, source?
People, please do not feed the troll
Asking for a source is being a troll? Fuck you and your entire line till the sun goes cold