The Taliban will attend China’s Belt and Road Forum next week, a spokesman said on Saturday, underscoring Beijing’s growing official ties with the administration, despite its lack of formal recognition by any government.

Taliban officials and ministers have at times travelled to regional meetings, mostly those focussed on Afghanistan, but the Belt and Road Forum is among the highest-profile multilateral summits it has been invited to attend.

The forum in Beijing on Tuesday and Wednesday marks the 10th anniversary of President Xi Jinping’s ambitious global infrastructure and energy initiative, billed as recreating the ancient Silk Road to boost global trade.

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    By that standard the US occupation was a blessing because Afghan infant mortality rates plummeted.

    My standard was about wars being fought, not about the death rate of a small portion of the population. And yours completely ignores the practice of Bacha Bazi that the warlords were doing.

    The Taliban are still sexist extremists.

    Absolutely, no questions there. However, the people wanted them - there’s a reason why they took over almost completely uncontested. Now, it’s up to the people to change their government from within.

    My hope is that they now have the taste for equal rights and such, and that the people might be successful. Maybe even form better relations with the West. That would certainly be better than them providing copper to China, which will primarily be used for war efforts. Although, as a civil infrastructure project this road is a good thing.

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      This is an absurdly oversimplified version of events. The Taliban waged a successful insurgency effort for nearly 2 decades, and remained armed and organized the entire time. The reason they took over after US withdrawl was in no way because they were “what people wanted”. They killed those who opposed them swiftly, and have continued to do so. They took power through swift application of force.

      They will never “change their government from within”. The Taliban is not a democracy where you vote on policy. It’s is a religious group and opposition to their policies is handled as opposition to God. You will die.

      I understand the tact you were attempting to take here, but the Taliban is not a populist force in the region, at all. There was fairly widespread support (not unanimous) for the changes the US brought, but rebuilding a nation is not simple. Corruption can take decades to expunged. Unfortunately the Taliban returned first and the sitting leadership just rolled over and hoped not to die.

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        They killed those who opposed them swiftly, and have continued to do so. They took power through swift application of force.

        No they didn’t. Most Afghani people laid down their weapons and didn’t oppose them when the Americans left. They stormed through the country so quickly because there was almost no resistance - in no small part because they were against Bacha Bazi and vowed to stop the practice.

        I agree that it’s incredibly unlikely that the Taliban can be changed. However, I wasn’t particularly referring to social change via democracy. Either way, it’s up to the Afghani people to sort it out.

        There was fairly widespread support (not unanimous) for the changes the US brought

        In Kabul, sure. The rest of the country, no.

        Edit: As for the people wanting them, I should probably expand on that. They probably didn’t particularly want the Taliban as their ideal choice, but saw it as the better of the options available to them.

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          No they didn’t. Most Afghani people laid down their weapons and didn’t oppose them when the Americans left. They stormed through the country so quickly because there was almost no resistance - in no small part because they were against Bacha Bazi and vowed to stop the practice.

          The Afghan people are not fighters, my guy. They lack enough homogeny for that. At least that’s what my brother who existed amongst them for nearly a decade told me when he got home from protecting them.

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      The people wanted them so bad some were clinging to the landing gears of the last planes leaving Kabul and plummeting to their deaths.

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        People in Kabul, where the city has been developed and westernised, sure. The rest of the country just let them roll through unopposed.

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          Sure, but you’re also ignoring rural ethnic groups like the Tajiks and the Hazaras that are certainly not happy with Taliban rule. The Taliban are a Pashtun movement and are not all that friendly to many other ethnic groups in Afghanistan, especially in the north.