I’m interested in ideas for small laptop-style devices that (1) run Linux and (2) are actually usable (i.e., not so small or low quality they’re basically toys).
My goal is for something to supplement my current, larger laptop. Something I can throw in a bag and pull out as needed during the day to take a few notes, read an eBook on, access the web, and so on.
Anyone have or heard of such a device?
I guess an important question is how small is unusable for you? That’s not an objective measure, and will be up to what you find usable.
It’s clearly an objective measure. Do some research!
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Hey, well, the ChatGPT chart shows it, so it must be true!
An 11” screen is 58 usables. That’s just science.
I format all my movies to be under 9" so I can get 100% usability out of smaller laptops
It’s 100 usables. It’s its own scale, don’t confuse people.
its more a hand and finger size vs keyboard size.
No experience myself, but I saw this recently on Lemmy: GPD Win Max 2
Nice, I was going to post GPD. Also no personal experience, I’ve wanted one for a while now, maybe one day.
that looks awesome and the pricing actually seems decent unlike some of their other devices
A 2012 11" MacBook Air will run ZorinOS nicely and is truly tiny but very usable. Any Air made between 2012-17, really, but the 11" is SMALL.
This depends on how big hands you have.
A fully usable system good enough to watch Youtube, do spreadsheets and play Minecraft can be a few inches wide.
So basically what is the smallest keyboard and screen you find usable? There’s likely a laptop around that size.
A netbook maybe? I used to have an old 10" lenovo netbook with a celeron CPU and 2GB of RAM. Worked pretty well with Lubuntu. I could even play StarCraft on it. If you just need it for light browsing and office tools, it should work fine. You can probably get one with at least 4 or 8 GB RAM for better performance.
If you already have a larger Linux laptop that you’re otherwise happy with, have you considered just throwing it in a padded laptop backpack?
https://x-plus.store/products/n150-netbook
I saw a post on this a few weeks back and excited purchased one. I’ve had it for a bit now and I’m generally happy with it.
If you’ve ever bought a Chinese product like this before, you know generally what to expect: about 95% quality and 5% WTF.
Personally I put Arch on it using KDE Plasma/Wayland and touch is lackluster. Other distros might handle things better, but I’m an Arch guy and I’m sticking it out.
- Keyboard is better than expected, but still a little janky. Key feel is surprisingly good but far from great, although sometimes they don’t actuate. I think that’s because I’m still learning to type on it. Key arrangement is not as big of an issue as I thought, although stuff like Tab, -, ", / can be a little awkward for typing terminal commands, plain text typing (like note taking) I can get pretty up to speed. Honestly the jankiest key is . but it’s placement in the center of the cluster still makes it fairly easy to hit
- The screen is clearly a tablet turned sideways. I’ve seen this before and I think even the Steam Deck does this, but it does lead to some oddities like resolution being 1200x1920 and SDDM is sideways (I tried fixing it, I’m sure there’s a way but I broke it so bad on one go that I ended up just doing a reinstall)
- It’s hefty, feels like a solid device, although maybe even a little too hefty when using it folded over and trying to hold it with one hand while reading
For me it’s absolutely perfect for the kind of note taking, book/comic reading, emulator playing, internet browsing I need to do. Admittedly it may still be too close to that “toy” kinda feel though …
I’ve had many laptops over the years, from the original eeePC to 17" portable workstations, and the smallest I personally found to be “usable” on a daily basis were in the 12" class; I used a Sony Z505 throughout law school. Get that size with a usable keyboard and touchpad. Anything reasonably modern with 8GB of RAM should be able to putz around in Linux as a secondary device.
I had one of the 10" eeePC machines for years. That thing was a tank. It did everything I needed it to, especially weird networking configurations. The battery also lasted over 6 hours. I mostly ran Crunchbang #! Linux on it.
I don’t think I could live on a 10" screen anymore, but back in the day it was a dream machine.
I don’t think I could live on a 10" screen anymore, but back in the day it was a dream machine.
Interesting. Years ago I moved from an 18in desktop setup to something like your eeePC. Unexpectedly, I also found it fine. These days I have a 14in and it feels unnecessarily big and heavy.
If you’re happy doing things one window at a time (i.e. monocle view, or basically as on mobile OSs), turns out the floor’s the limit!
For the hell of it, I used one as my main work laptop for a while. $199 plus $20 of RAM when I got it, IIRC.
External keyboard, put the laptop on a cantilevered board so that it’s right in front of my eyeballs so that the screen size doesn’t matter, use it mostly as a thin client to a beefier machine so the CPU doesn’t matter much.
I had the original eeePC too. I found the problem with the screen to be the resolution, not the size. My Lenovo Legion Go with its 8" screen is perfect as my daily driver.
GPD laptops run Linux well. Even their smallest laptop. So it’s really up to you as far how small you want to go.
ETA Prime reviews a lot of tiny laptops. They might help you find a good match.
Ideally an old business laptop or tablet.
Something with at least 4GB of RAM, x86_64v3 compatible processor and SSD.
Dell, Lenovo and HP all made decent tablets and business laptops so check out eBay for your country. You also might luck out with Amazon Renewed.
Phone or small tablet with a wireless keyboard.
This isn’t the smallest you can go per se and isn’t a laptop but I’ve happily run PopOS on my Surface Pro 8 for over a year. You lose the front camera due to the proprietary blobs, and there’s some tweaking needed such as to get the keyboard working for LUKS decrypt but it’s pretty damn good for those tasks you mention. I read a lot of comics and RPG rule/corebooks and it’s perfect for that plus some light browsing and media consumption. Biggest downsides are the battery life which isn’t great compared to on Windows (around 5hrs or so, up to 7 with light usage) but that’s Linux for you, and ofc it’s more awkward to balance the folio keyboard on your lap. But for all that, it’s pretty convenient to take around plus you get the benefit of that bright, Surface Pro display
Not sure how much power you need - but I just bought a used Microsoft surface 7 pro and installed Linux Mint on it. Was pretty damn easy actually. Runs great!
Is this a laptop to you? https://thepihut.com/products/3-5-ips-capacitive-touch-display-320-x-480 because the rpi runs Linux pretty well.
