Is there anywhere in the bible that requires the formal act of confession? Can’t you just always repent personally? It’s not like the omniscient deity can’t read your mind.
You gotta declare it, like bankruptcy.
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Yes you can, but how are you supposed to control the minds of an extremely gullible population that way?
No. The repentance of each individual sin is not required either as shown in the Lord’s Prayer. “Forgive us our debts/trespasses” shows that we can simply ask God to forgive us in general, although it is good to ask forgiveness for individual sins for our own reflection.
That begs the question of The Bible being the only source of truth and authority, an assertion to which catholics do not acquiesce and a point of contention between them and many protestant sects.
book of nature wut wut grandeur written all around us etc
There’s nowhere in the Bible that it says everything of the faith is contained in the bible. Though it does say that we should cling to tradition even if not written “Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.” 2 Thessilonians 2:15
That being said, the Church usually points to Jesus as having instituted the sacrament of reconciliation here "Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.” John 20:23
Yes, you can repent directly to the lord, but most people can’t hear the lord and won’t get the benefits of therapy from it, they’ll only get the benefits of mindfulness. At a confessional everyone can get the benefits of amateur therapy.
But then the priests don’t get to ask kids if they touch themselves
More religious memes! I grew up religious so I have quite a bit of useless knowledge accrued about he various monotheistic religions. Would be nice to put them to use for some meme enjoying
Same, I’m an atheist and I miss reddit’s DankChristianMemes, it was so much more entertaining than AthiestMemes
Can you explain that meme to me?
Basically, catholic church has confessions. Y’know, those booths with the priest and the confessor?
Luther didn’t like that, and a myriad of other things, and decide to make it known. This, more or less, caused Protestantism
I’m simplifying a lot, but: In the Christian faith, Catholics believe that you have to pray through their saints* (which get their authority from the Catholic church), whereas Protestants believe you can pray directly to god. This concept was put forward by the monk Martin Luther.
Here a fun video on the subject if you want a crash course: https://piped.video/watch?v=FhGGjRjvq7w
- see correction below: https://lemmy.world/comment/5982141. Saints are still very important to Catholics, though.
This is wrong. Catholics can pray “directly to God”. It’s actually what contrition is considered doing and part of confession. Catholics also believe you can petition Saints for intercession from God (so like, “Hey, you know God, can you put in a good word for me?”).
That second part is what many Protestant denominations have/had an issue with.
The core part here, however, relates to plenary indulgences and is part of what drove Martin’s reformation.
(This is described - the indulgences part being what drove the wedge between Martin Luthor and the Pope - in the Wiki you linked.)
Oh thanks for the correction. I suppose that shows that I’ve got most of my religious education from Protestants.
Always helps to give perspective on Martin Luther by reminding folks about the antisemitic book he wrote.
This is some of the most vile, hateful shit I’ve read in a while. Thanks for the added context. It’s tempting to think of Martin Luther as almost progressive for his time, but even given his time, his bilious rants against Jewish people are beyond the pale. Copy pasting from your link here, just in case anyone is on the fence:
In the treatise, he argues that Jewish synagogues and schools be set on fire, their prayer books destroyed, rabbis forbidden to preach, homes burned, and property and money confiscated. Luther demanded that no mercy or kindness be given to them, afforded no legal protection, and “these poisonous envenomed worms” should be drafted into forced labor or expelled for all time. He also advocates their murder, writing “[W]e are at fault in not slaying them”.
One can see how writing like this no doubt contributed to harm and pain inflicted against real people.
Yup it’s really terrible. But he was also thinking about a Jewish religion rather than as an ethnicity. His work was co-oped to be about ethnicity by the Nazis later. But it’s still really bad and vile.
Pope is fed up with your bs. Asks you to go take it up with God
More Pope Francis out of context please!
There’s a lot about this one I find puzzling.
Making Martin Luther black in a modern setting made me assume it was a reference to Dr. King’s work.
Not a lot of contemporary photos of Martin Luther looking triumphant.
“sorry but the prists cant listen to everyones confession about having put lego figures up their ass”
Seems like somebody wasn’t able to count over 25. Just look at that ordered list.
