I’m not from the US, so I’m curious why Americans still wants him back. I always see him as a bad mouthed guy and was worse when he lost in 2020. But feel free to change my mind. This question is also for non-trump supporters who can think of one thing (if you can) on why he’s good for the top position.

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    As a conservative, the only people you care about not dying are your friends and family. Conservatives are not able to experience empathy for people outside of their in-group.

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      Well, this is false :)

      I do experience empathy towards all Ukrainians dying in this war, not just my friends and family (although obviously I care more about them, that’s how life works).

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            The consistent behavior of conservatives world-wide is evidence that conservatives are incapable of experiencing empathy for those outside of their in-group.

            Your suggestion that your capacity for empathy is somehow different than all other conservatives is bizarre and itself requires evidence to be taken at face value.

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              The consistent behavior of conservatives world-wide is evidence that conservatives are incapable of experiencing empathy for those outside of their in-group.

              You didn’t provide any proof for that :)

              And actually, why do you even consider me a conservative? Is it only conservatives who have a compassion for human life? :/

              Your suggestion that your capacity for empathy is somehow different than all other conservatives is bizarre and itself requires evidence to be taken at face value.

              You are the one suggesting that somehow I lack empathy, so burden of proof is on you ;)

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                You didn’t provide any proof for that

                The statement immediately above was evidence. In classic conservative fashion, you now demand evidence of that evidence. This goal-post movement will continue ad nauseum, illustrating the futility of debating conservatives.

                Is it only conservatives who have a compassion for human life?

                No. The opposite is true, obviously.

                You are the one suggesting that somehow I lack empathy, so burden of proof is on you

                You are requesting evidence of a negative, knowing full-well that it is not possible to prove a lack of existence of evidence. You have now provided yet another example of a conservative engaging in debate in bad faith.

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                  The statement immediately above was evidence.

                  You’re confusing your opinion with evidence. Sorry to tell you, but it doesn’t work that way.

                  No. The opposite is true, obviously.

                  Oh really? So you have empathy towards hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians that died in the war, and also wish for war to end as soon as possible, and therefore support Trump who is the only politician who promised to end the war? Well, in that case what are we even arguing about :)

                  You are requesting evidence of a negative

                  I am requesting evidence of your arguments. If you argue something that you can’t prove, then your argument is by definition invalid.

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                    You’re confusing your opinion with evidence.

                    This statement is deception. I used your words as evidence. Your words are clearly not my opinion.

                    I am requesting evidence of your arguments.

                    This statement is manipulation based on deception. You asked me to prove that you do not have empathy for those not in your in-group. It is foundational to the basic human understanding of reality to know that it is impossible to provide evidence of the absence of something beyond the absence of the evidence of its existence. This is an informal logical fallacy called “Argument from Ignorance”. I provided a statement based on the Absence of Evidence and you replied by demanding the Evidence of Absence. This is a bad faith argument on your part.