A misogynist, assuming you mean someone who is reinforcing or using the power structure of misogyny. To call it hatred is reductive, someone can be misogynistic and not think of themselves as a misogynist. They can have misogynistic opinions, commit misogynistic acts, or spread misogynistic misinformation without seeing themselves as someone who hates women.
Well that’s a problem then, because you’re using the same term to refer to two different but related things. Well, it becomes a problem when you consider misandry. Sure, there’s no systemic oppression of men (except collateral damage from the patriarchy). But there are absolutely individuals and groups of individuals who hate or are dismissive of men. We need a word for that.
I think the popular definitions here are more useful than yours, because it prevents misunderstandings when someone says something like “misandry is a thing that exists”. They’re not saying it exists in a systemic, structural way. Just that there are individuals who feel like that.
I never said the word wasn’t a real word, I’m saying that in the context of systemic discrimination against men there is no such system of misandry. That it is not true that body policing and control are not equal issues for men and for women. The thing I’ve been talking about the entire time.
Nouns can be applied in 2 different ways dependent on context, English works just fine that way. When we talk about misogyny in intersectional feminist discourse we are talking about the power structure of hatred and violence against women.
A misogynist, assuming you mean someone who is reinforcing or using the power structure of misogyny. To call it hatred is reductive, someone can be misogynistic and not think of themselves as a misogynist. They can have misogynistic opinions, commit misogynistic acts, or spread misogynistic misinformation without seeing themselves as someone who hates women.
Well that’s a problem then, because you’re using the same term to refer to two different but related things. Well, it becomes a problem when you consider misandry. Sure, there’s no systemic oppression of men (except collateral damage from the patriarchy). But there are absolutely individuals and groups of individuals who hate or are dismissive of men. We need a word for that.
I think the popular definitions here are more useful than yours, because it prevents misunderstandings when someone says something like “misandry is a thing that exists”. They’re not saying it exists in a systemic, structural way. Just that there are individuals who feel like that.
I never said the word wasn’t a real word, I’m saying that in the context of systemic discrimination against men there is no such system of misandry. That it is not true that body policing and control are not equal issues for men and for women. The thing I’ve been talking about the entire time.
Nouns can be applied in 2 different ways dependent on context, English works just fine that way. When we talk about misogyny in intersectional feminist discourse we are talking about the power structure of hatred and violence against women.
Yeah I just think the terminology could be a lot better. As you can see it promotes misunderstanding.