• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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        Wow you went from victim blaming to, if Israel did it it wasn’t really their fault, to Israel is the victim of this unarmed civilian all in one post.

        Great job.

        • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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          Yes, that kind of consistency in reasoning is because that’s how it actually works there. In truth, and you must know this deep inside, there’s even less evidence for these one liner Al Jazeera headlines about who killed this girl and why, but you have your pitchfork out already. Now you’re chowing down a steady diet of Qatari state media and non profit fundraising emails.

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            Lmao. Impressive how you try to stay in message in the face of reality.

      • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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        “Bear witness” is codified language for make your voice heard, but I can see how you don’t understand that applies to people who you don’t assign basic human agency to. What a monstrous comment.

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            In most places it means being a journalist. And Israel did a speed run for the record of journalists killed in war.

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              JustZ is a kahanist troll and you’re not going to get any reasonable answer from them. Here they’ve made up out of whole cloth an entire theory based on a bad faith interpretation of a common phrase to find a way to blame the victim.

              • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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                That’s what the phrase means in Palestinian culture. It’s a verb phrase that means “to become a statistic in the name of the glory of Islam.” Stop trying to romance it up into some epic struggle for human rights. Gaza doesn’t give Gaza human rights. These dead innocents are victims of generations of brainwashing and hopelessness. Despite that, 98% of the Gaza has managed to dodge all the famine campaigns and indiscriminate carpet bombing. I have hope that after Hamas is gone, enough Palestinians may embrace modern human rights like representative government and due process instead of just having an actually far right religious dictatorship and rule by assassination, instead of living in the eighth century but with drones and rocket launchers.

                I’m not religious at all. Funny you think I’m a follower of some religious nutjob that I’ve never heard of. Can I assume that there is some other, equally nutty religious psychopath, for whom you’d throw your life away, or that you just think that’s rational behavior? I don’t know. Maybe just stick with “everything that makes me too sad is Zionism.”

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                  That’s what the phrase means in Palestinian culture. It’s a verb phrase that means “to become a statistic in the name of the glory of Islam.”

                  Got a source for that, or is it just anti-Palestinian bigotry?

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                    Colloquially the concept of yashad does stand for that. However, the way the user is bringing it up is not appropriate in my opinion. I get what they are trying to say, but we can’t apply it to every single instance when someone is killed. It’s trying to insinuate that every journalist killed so far has been invited to “bear witness” which… No.

                    It’s a dumb argument and makes no sense.

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        I have to assume this was written by an Antisemitic troll to deliberately make Israelis look bad, because the alternative is you thinking this was going to convince somebody.

        And holy shit, that’s some martyrdom behavior.

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        Then why is Israel helping them? It is, after all, quite true that Israel has refused to stop settlement activity in the West Bank. Seems like a great way to cause protests, and then responding with a shoot first, ask questions later mentality will lead to a lot of martyrs. Are you accusing the Israeli government of being in league with Hamas?

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        Whats it like to be insanely wrong about the world. Is it nice? They say ignorance is bliss I bet you are pissing bliss.

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        Nobody uses the phrase “bear witness” that way and rolling it into a racist screed like this earns you a ban.