• Foni@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    I don’t understand, does that mean that the rest of the EU countries are fine with the IDF targeting UNIFIL? Netherlands? Germany? Austria? Sweden? really?

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    They stand in the way intentionally, they didn’t do their job of keeping hezbolla/iran out of that area, they need to leave.

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      That was not their job. Their job is to monitor, cooperate with the local people and ensure access to humanitarian aid. They are specifically not tasked with fighting, except when defending themselves against attacks.

      Also demanding observers to leave only makes sense when you plan to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity. Not that existing observers stopped Israel before, but they still make a point of “removing” them.

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      1. They’re ineffectual, weak, and don’t do anything, and have failed their mission.
      2. They are so effective and strong, that they need to leave so the IDF is safe.

      Pick one.

      They’re literally hunkered down inside bunkers in their bases - which are well documented, flying UN flags, and painted peacekeeper white. The only place they’re “standing in the way” is in your propaganda. And now they’re “human shields” for Hezbollah, which if history is repeated, means they’re days/weeks away from direct Israeli bombing.

      When you shoot at UN peacekeepers, you’re almost always the bad guy.

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        I think you misunderstood my intention, i don’t want them to die a pointless death in the crossfire, the mission is failed, that’s not the fault of the soldiers it’s the fault of UN, UN failed Israel, the Blue Helmets, the Lebanese People and so many more.

        When you “shoot” UN peacekeepers without the intention of them being there, they are bystanders and not intentional targets, thats the point, they are currently nothing but in the way. Israel hasn’t killed any Blue Helmet soldier from my knowledge, they hurt some, thats bad, but the circumstances are pretty clearly against the blue helmets being there.

        BTW, why are “Peacekeeper” hunkered down when everyone claims genocide left and right, when there is a active war, when the soul purpose of them there was to keep the hezbolla out of the area? Can you please explain that?

        And your claims about direct Israeli bombing of “human shields” has 0 proof whatsoever. Its made up and not true.

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      1 month ago

      The biggest threat to peace in the region right now is not Iran, it is not them who should be kept out of the territory of another sovereign state

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          1 month ago

          Hey

          I sent you DM 3 days ago, but haven’t gotten an reply. Just wanted to let you know in case your lemmy client doesn’t notify you of DMs

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          Are you kidding? Israel has killed countless civilians in Gaza, committing obvious crimes like indiscriminately cutting off running water, is invading a sovereign state without the slightest cause accepted by international law, committing crimes as collective punishment. It has been clearly endangering the security of states like Iran in what is a provocation that even the US has protested. But for you it is not the greatest danger to the security of the region, you cannot be serious.

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            Your comment had two pieces, and my comment was contesting the second part only, namely this:

            it is not them who should be kept out of the territory of another sovereign state

            … because clearly, they’re arming terrorist groups in another sovereign state specifically for the purpose of hurting yet another sovereign state.

            The biggest threat to peace in the region right now is not Iran,

            While I am at it: I find ascribing the role of a “biggest threat” a bit pointless in this situation. Yes, Israel is clearly killing a lot of people right now. A lot more than either Hamas or Hezbollah on their own ever could.

            Imo, the situation in the Middle East results from a pointless series of provocations where people chose to escalate rather than de-escalate.

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              At this time only one state has its own troops on the soil of another country without having been invited in the entire Middle East. Everything else is cheap talk that covers up or relativizes the genocidal acts of a criminal state.