• partial_accumen@lemmy.world
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    Please tell me one nation that has it all figured out whose rules we can use for the world. No one has. We have many different versions and the US is just one. You’re complaining about the laws the US writes for itself and its citizens. Is it perfect? Far from it, but its much better than authoritarian regimes like Iran, Russia, or China writing the rules that everyone would have to follow if you get your way.

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      My concern are the sanctions, which don’t accomplish their goals, and disproportionately affects the people of Iran. It is an exercise in power, to demonstrate power, and is condemned by the world.

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        So for our thought experiment now, YOU’RE the one writing the rules: What rule (besides sanctions) would YOU put in place to accomplish the goals without disproportionately affecting the people of Iran?

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          We have an organization for this, the United Nations. They condemn the sanctions. Follow the UN. A rule: The Golden Rule. Don’t do anything to another country that you wouldn’t want done to you.

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            We have an organization for this, the United Nations. They condemn the sanctions.

            I’ve seen no sources say that. Back up your statement with a real source that says that.

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                First, thank you for posting that. Second, you should be seeing the problem with it. Its not the UN, as a governing body, saying that.

                From your source:

                " the group of Special Rapporteurs and the Independent Expert on international solidarity, said in a statement."

                This is a group of people hired by the HRC, not even a binding UN resolution either. The HRC is following its mandate to: "strengthening the promotion and protection of human rights ". They call out the results of actions, without addressing the reasons or actions to solutions to why those actions were taken. They’re not wrong, but their statements are incomplete. Its okay for them though, its not their mandate to come up with solutions, just to call out problems.

                Where is the UN’s enforcement answer to curtailing Iran’s nuclear weapons program? This is hard and confusing world or geopolitics.

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                  The UN still sanctions their nuclear ambitions. Which I agree with, because it’s the UN. America is unilaterally doing the economic sanctions, which they do not agree with. It would be difficult for the UN to vote to condemn the US due to the structure of the organization (US led). So they have to do it with press releases. They did vote on the Cuban embargo and blockade. And every member country except the US and Israel voted to end it.