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        In the '80s, Reagan thought that AIDS was killing the right people.

        Now it’s the other way around.

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          Necessary to protect people with weak immune systems, certainly. But we rarely get better than 60% of the population flu vaxed. It is still vital to deter higher instances of hospitalization and to blunt the rate of spread.

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            There are people who have genuine medical reasons to not take vaccines (e.g. an allergy to a common ingredient) or who are so immunocompromised that a vaccine won’t keep them alive, and they rely on other people getting vaccinated to avoid dying. It’s not just antivaxers who antivaxers kill.

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              it’s not just antivaxers who antivaxers kill.

              Reminded of the family whose kid died of measles saying “Our other kids survived, so it was fine”.

              That young child wasn’t the one who had been deluded with misinformation.

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            Selection bias. All the survivors will say “See! We didn’t need the Fauchi Ouchie!” while all the dead won’t say anything.

            I’ve straight up been at an event where a speaker asked “Raise your hand if you’ve died because you didn’t get vaccinated! Nobody? That’s what I thought.”

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              Yes, but we’re slowly evolving away the dumbest and most dangerous of the population.

              In the past we sent them running eagerly into the meat grinder of war.

              Now they’re building up like cord wood, and starting to smolder.

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                we’re slowly evolving away the dumbest and most dangerous of the population

                Do you believe that exposure to misinformation is a consequence of genetics? Like, people are just born with an ear uniquely tuned to anti-vax radio, television, and social media?

                Now they’re building up like cord wood, and starting to smolder.

                “RFK Jr is getting his eugenics backwards” is one hell of a take.

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                  I believe vulnerability to misinformation is an effect of genetics, and this puts pressure on those genes to go extinct as they are not suited for survival.

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                    I believe vulnerability to misinformation is an effect of genetics

                    :-/

                    And you came to this conclusion… genetically?

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        They can die from it alone in their house. Stop going to the hospitals and infecting infants and newborns that can’t get it.