• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    The cops are the fucking snowflakes. Using riot gear to deal with innocent college students. Not to mention fucking snipers.

    Sorry if you have seen me post this image elsewhere, IU was my alma mater and I cannot be more pissed off about what is going on there. 33 students arrested last I heard. A place where protest camps have always been allowed by the university shut down by the cops with a new rule in place just before the protest started. I can’t be more disgusted.

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      Unfortunately while that’s out of the norm for IU, any protest in Columbus gets snipers. Possibly throughout Ohio. That doesn’t make it ok, it’s absolutely not, just not an escalation from expected behavior. At least that’s the lore among leftists in the state

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      The USA uses snipers everywhere where there are big crowds though.

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        That’s really not true. There’s a reason why people are making a big deal about this.

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          It’s just that I have seen a lot of images of it being done in the USA.

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            I have no idea what images you’ve seen, but not only do I know exactly where that IU sniper is standing, I can tell you for a fact that is not normal because I used to go up there when I was a student to smoke weed since they never locked the door.

            I don’t think I would have gone up there with friends to smoke weed if there was a cop with a sniper rifle stationed there. Not even when there were protests going on where that protester is pointing his gun.

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            Yeah if that’s true you should probably be more mad not less. Having a sword of Damocles dangling precariously overhead for otherwise powerless students exercising what should be a fairly mundane democratic function of solidarity really shouldn’t be “business as usual” for any country.

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              I don’t have the energy to be more mad. It doesn’t matter for me and in the end I don’t really care .

              It’s a you (USA) problem.

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                If you don’t care, then can it. Yes it’s an us problem, and we care.

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            Europe does this regularly too. It came to mainstream knowledge when a protestor parachuted into the Germany - France euro match in 2020. People watching the spectacle noticed a sniper in the very top area over looking the stadium. When this broke in the news they said that snipers are regularly at events that large. They are anti-terrorism measures, according to the EU.

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        If law enforcement is using a sniper, it means it’s terrified of your protest.

        If it’s terrified of your protest it means you have a legitimate grievance and they know it.

        They don’t have snipers for COVID-19 mask and lockdown protests.

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    The persistent thing I get from right wing folk is that they can not, on a fundamental level get their head round the idea that some people think differently to them. They fear the loss of their power because they know what they do with it, and fear someone else having it. They say other people are triggered because of the unreasoning fury they respond to cognitive dissonance with. They are worried about people ‘making children gay’ because they will happily imprison and torture people until they present cis/hetero. They make women cover up because they know that any excuse to rape would be enough for them. They support the police because the threat of the police is the only thing keeping their neighbours safe from them. They are scared of the feds because they know what they have used the feds to do.

    Don’t trust them. Especially when they think no one is watching.

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      I legit knew a repub irl that baldly admitted to thinking like this.

      (Old family friend, used to be the adults’ way of saying they were accepting of other political beliefs. “You can make friends/marriages across the aisle work, if you’re just patient and tolerant” kind of self-aggrandizement. Cue the guy bullying his liberal wife into voting repub for years and eventually ditching her on a whim after controlling her entire life… at this point even my “tolerant” family was fed up with him and had been sticking around only to keep the wife company, and her poor kids.)

      One minor example (of many) of what appeared to be hypocrisy on the surface:
      Railing against the welfare system, nonstop unprompted for years, and then when he lost his job he sat on it for as long as possible before he was forced to find a job. It wasn’t that he was struggling to find a job, he didn’t even attempt to try until the deadline was pending. He was proud of “abusing the system.”

      I wouldn’t even criticize him for it if he hadn’t spent years talking about how people who ever used welfare were lazy and selfish. But he was the laziest and most selfish person I have ever spent any meaningful amount of time with. He’s a big reason I don’t tolerate entertaining republicans.

      If that man had a rule he could bend or break, even if it hurt others, maybe especially if it hurt others, he would and feel no regret or remorse. He thought it was mostly amusing to torment people. His kids especially. And his dog.

      He’s not the only republican I’ve met that thinks like him. Just the most careless. Said too many quiet parts out loud.

      It’s not hypocrisy to him. You’re absolutely right, it’s just them telling on themselves as to what to expect from them if they have the space to. Any leniency in the systems exist to be abused, and too often many of them are too happy to.

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        No no no you see, the reason it’s ok for him to do that is because he’s just getting his fair share, after all, “all the immigrants” do it too.

        /s if this wasn’t obvious, I’ve literally heard crusty old conservatives in my extended family say this exact shit.

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    Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.

    Umberto Eco, Ur-Fascism

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    So about snowflakes

    I remember the term snowflake or special snowflake coming to prominence from the alt-right in 2015-2016. By 2017 it was part of the MAGA vocabulary and was commonplace among right-wing pundits like Tomi Lahren and Glen Beck.

    The reference was less to the notion that snowflakes are frail, but that they’re unique. Empathetic folks sometimes might recognize that individual human beings are special. To borrow a thought from The Watchmen (Allen Moore), Dr. Manhattan eventually realizes life is a series of “thermodynamic miracles,” events so improbable that they seem miraculous, like oxygen turning into gold. We all have value to society and to each other, even if that is lost in the teeming crowds.

    Those of us who practice empathy practice looking for this value, or taking it on faith that if we feed and care for everyone without selection, we are stronger for the numbers. (Certainly, art, science and culture are improved by having more eyes and hands). But, as Dr. Manhattan notes, when you see such miracles by the millions they become hard to recognize. Hence the alt-right response is to compare it to the individual uniqueness of snowflakes: Each one is different and even pretty, but all are ultimately, tumbling ice crystals that get lost in the snow.

    Much of the alt-right is comprised of men who are, to quote old movies and old analysts, not economically viable, They struggle to find work or a place for themselves in a society that sees them just as expendable resources. Our deteriorating economy has produced a surplus of War Boys, looking to be witnessed, that they might rise to Valhalla, all shiny and chrome.

    (It was a voting bloc that Steve Bannon was able to draw to back Trump in 2016. In 2024, they still haven’t gone away, and while they’re still cynical and less loyal to Trump, they’re waiting for their next Immortan Joe.)

    But as much as the early MAGA movement swore by apathy and brutal truth, we would rapidly discover they too were sensitive about their own weakness, and couldn’t bear criticism and was easy to take offense.

    In June of 2017, Shakespeare in Central Park did a performance of Julius Caesar, and as is tradition, Caesar is dressed as the regional leader. Gregg Henry dressed tall and blond and orange-tan with an extra-long red tie. Calpurnia was a spitting image of Melania. (During Obama’s terms, there were multiple performances, with Obama-like caesars. It’s an ongoing thing.

    Right-wing media had a meltdown. Sponsors of Shakespeare in the Park were pressured to cut their ties. So while Liberal Tears mugs were flying off the shelves; while Omarosa was threatening enemies of the new White House order with shadowy arrests; while Stephen Miller was looking to become Trump’s Heydrich to start an immigrant holocaust, suddenly a Trumpy Julius Caesar (who gets assassinated, though the assassins don’t fare well in the end) was a troll too far.

    By the end of 2017, it was evident that Trump’s ego was as tender as a baby with diaper rash, that he needed his rallies and his cabinet meetings to include a rotation of compliments about how amazing he was as President. It was one of those moments where we realized as the most powerful dude in the world, he still felt like a failure.

    So yeah, as per the Republican party since 2015, every accusation is a confession. They send the police in full riot gear not because they imagine Palestine aid supporters to be weak any more than they imagined BLM to be weak in 2020. It’s because they’re terrified that they have no legitimate standing for their authority except for the force it can command. And the police know it as well, which is why CS-Gas flows thick as London fog before dawn.

    I can’t be sure if the protests will do anything. All the concessions made in response to the George Floyd protests in 2020 were reversed. But they are afraid of the outrage. They do tremble before communist revolution, even if the rise of communism, itself, remains a remote dream.

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    And their demographic is going to finally flush these bullshit conservatives right out of the voting equation. Huzzah.