Considering to buy one for a family member.
Yes, I know someone who did, but they ODed on the nicotine cartridges via vaping and not reading the dosages carefully. They quit entirely after that.
The TL;DR on this one is “if someone wants to quit being addicted to nicotine a vape is a decent way to stop.” If they don’t want to, they’ll just switch to the vape instead of smoking.
So they have to want to quit in order to get any benefit.
My spouse and I both did.
I was a pack per day smoker for 15-20 years. Switched to vaping as it was becoming so popular. Stepped down the nicotine over the course of a few years until I finally just got tired of going and buying 1mg juice and stopped. Haven’t had a vape in about 2 years and a cigarette in about about 5.
I still get a craving now and then but it passes. Cigarettes usually just smell like a disgusting ashtray and I’m glad I don’t smoke anymore.
edit: we both actively wanted to quit and I’m so happy it worked for us
20 years smoking 10 to 15 cigarettes a day, switched to vaping for 4 years, then quit completely as I was fed up with the logistics of vaping.
My last cigarette was 9 years ago and I don’t miss it at all. I consider vaping was the biggest reason I quit, seconded with the avoidance of social situations where smoking is common.
Worked for a close friend of mine, he went from a pack a day to vaping, and was then able to lower the concentration of nicotine gradually over time. He still vapes, but no nicotine, and he never went back to cigarettes.
I think you have to want to quit smoking for it to work like that. I’ve found that because vaping is more accessible than smoking, someone’s vaping consumption can be far higher than what they were smoking. It can be quite easy to sort of absent mindedly vape in a way that’s harder to do when smoking.
But I do know people who have used vaping in this way. Someone I knew had tried to quit smoking before but they couldn’t go from one cigarette per day (and they needed to quit fully, or their smoking would inevitably increase during times of stress). When smoking, I guess you could roll a smaller cigarette, but this friend tried that and it didn’t work. Vaping allowed them to finally kick the habit for good because their vape allowed them to taper down the nicotine content per puff of the vape
Yes! I smoked for over 20 years. I didn’t think I’d ever be able to quit. I started vaping with the goal of quitting, and eventually quit! Then I quit vaping too, about six months later. It’s an excellent cessation method, with almost a 70% success rate. The next closest cessation method has a success rate of 3% and is owned by the tobacco companies.
Get a device that hits like a cigarette. This means mouth to lung, and not a big DTL cloud machine. It also ideally means a round mouthpiece. Make sure it’s good enough to give throat hit, but not so good that it produces massive clouds. Ideally you want a device that is not sub-ohm. Start with 18mg tobacco flavored juice. Then just vape. Sometimes you’ll smoke cigarettes, and sometimes you’ll vape. Don’t beat yourself up when you smoke, but try to vape more than you smoke. Before you know it, you’ll be reaching for the vape more than the cigarettes, until you don’t reach for cigarettes at all. Then you’re free!
Once you’re free, wait a month and then cut the juice down to 12mg, then 6, then 3, then a mix of 0 and 3, then 0! After a couple weeks of 0 you’ll just naturally quit, no discipline required.
Share this information with the person you know, and tell them that if I could do it, anyone can do it!
Edit: for such a device I recommend the Geekvape B coil series, in higher ohm ranges.
Not fully but I just don’t carry a pack anymore. Vaping is much better in my personal experience
Don’t think I’ve seen one of my friends actually quit yet, but vaping has replaced cigarettes for 90% of the usage.
So it really depends if you think vaping is less harmful than smoking.
Yes, it just took me about 5 years of on and off vaping 😅. Vaping is a much better addiction to have than smoking though.
Vaping didn’t help me quit, lozenges and lining up my quitting date with some dental work that you’re not supposed to smoke with was what finally worked for me.
While it may not stop the nicotine addiction. It beats the tar and crap actual cigarettes…
Agreed. Although I struggle with vaping nicotine WAY too much and I feel like it has caused me some issues.
Still, way better than real cigs as far as my lungs are concerned - but the ease of being able to vape and constantly get a nicotine fix has been the real issue for me. Currently reading Alan Carr’s the Easy Way to get this monkey off my back once and for all.
Absolutely, there is no mistaking vaping is bad for you. But there are levels of bad.
Additionally, there has not been enough legit science data to indicate how bad it is.
The biggest risk we see (outside the risks that are the same as those from cigarettes but less severe) is circulatory health risks (vessel function). Sure, you have increased risk of respiratory disease, but not nearly as bad as cigarettes. The real benefit is that most vaporizers and eliquids are not carcinogenic (directly cancer causing) the way cigarette smoking is, so you can lose the added chance of getting cancer while titrating nicotine dosage down to nothing over a longer period; one of the main failure points of nicotine gums and patches is that they aren’t effective methods for pack-a-day smokers, the usual suggested regimens have them in withdrawal headaches and brain fog quickly and many smokers quit quitting on week one or two.
We have dozens of ten year studies with HUGE N already. Read them. Check out the REPRIEVE trial data. If you seriously think every single one of the currently available studies and trial results are not “legit science data” you’re insane.
Uh huh.
Willful ignorance is the most disappointing feature of humanity
I did, not sure it made it easier though. It took away two negatives for smoking for me, it didn’t smell bad to others and I could smoke inside.
If anything it made it harder to quit, but they’re supposedly much better for you
Regardless of the health benefits for you personally, they’re much better and less unpleasant for those around you.
I’m not sure that vaping inside is better than smoking outside. You’re right about it being more pleasant and likely right about it being healthier, do you know of any research comparing second hand smoke on clothes to second hand vape (comparing smoking outside to vaping inside)
You can try but some people are allergic to the liquids used. And the person vaping has to slowly decrease the nicotine amount over time, a lot of people start increasing it instead and end up with more unhealthy nicotine levels than regular cigs. Also vaping is not good for the lungs either.
Check out SmokeFree.gov! It has great free resources that are science based. Quitting smoking is the number thing someone who smokes can do for their health.
The most effective methods to quit smoking include varenicline (aka Chantix), FDA-approved nicotine replacement therapies (gum, patch, lozenge, inhaler, etc), and behavioral therapy. Combining all of these therapies in a clinical trials results in the most people quitting.
No vape is FDA-approved as a cessation therapy, because no company has applied. There have been some small academic run trials, which tend to show a decrease in smoking, but continued nicotine addiction. Probably because vapes have much higher nicotine content than FDA-approved therapies. While vapes expose people to a lot less carcinogens than smoke, there are some carcinogens and nicotine itself is harmful to vascular and mental health. So if the evidence-based methods don’t work, completely switching to vaping would be less harmful.
Agreed. There is a lot of new research on vaping. Could potentially cause a number of issues, but probably still better than actual smoking. I’ve heard the inhalers work sometimes because of the nicotine as well as the physical movements involved.
I’ve also seen exactly one ad (on YouTube) for some sort of flavour inhaler (no nicotine) if you’re having trouble with the physical aspect. Can’t say any more about that though, as I haven’t looked into it.
Those are bullshit. Look at the cessation success rate of those methods, and then look at vape. Vape is almost 70% success rate, and those other methods are like 3%. The tobacco companies own most of those methods. Don’t listen to some stupid sponsored study for this, listen to the people who have done it. Vaping is a successful cessation method, and all of the attempts to ban it have been driven by lobbying & dark money from the tobacco companies.
I look at independent randomized controlled trials, not anecdotal evidence. Here’s a recent trial from Finland that didn’t have industry funding. They compared low-nicotine vaping vs varenicline alone vs placebo. Both varenicline and vaping resulted in about 40% of people quitting at 12 weeks, and 20% of placebo group. So add nicotine replacement therapy and behavioral therapy on top of varenicline and the rates should go higher. Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies sell most of the FDA-approved cessation therapies, and in comparison the big tobacco companies sell vapes.
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