When I signed up for Lemmy, I didn’t know about some wars that existed between instances, and when I chose lemmy.ml I thought, “Why not?”. Tbh, dont think too much about instances.
I signed up because I wanted to get the full Lemmy experience, but I don’t know if some instances block the instance I’m connected , and this is a bit confusing for me. At the beginning, when I joined Lemmy, I remember reading that it is advisable to choose the instance carefully, and I even assume that it was my mistake, but I think it could be a little easier for those who enter the fediverse. I guess. Know nothing at this time.
So, the question is there. Do you judge members by instance? I’m just a normal guy; I don’t like the extreme right or extreme communism. In fact, I think all extremism is stupid. But , if you could enlighten me on this, I would appreciate it.
At this point, I don’t know if I’m blocked by some instances or not. Basically, I want to enjoy having the entire Lemmy experience, where I could read all types of content.
EDIT: during this time, maybe some people judge members because the instance. And I dont like that feel if someone think “oh look this dude, is from lemmy.ml, he is extremist communist, for sure”. However, I’m not. Im just a normal guy without any politic side.
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I have an alt account on sh.itjust.works for whenever lemmy.world is down. I’d love to know what you dislike about them so I can determine whether or not I should have a different alt instance. I’m pretty OOTL when it comes to instance drama
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Sh.itjust.works isn’t supposed to be about technology, although I could see how you might get that impression based on the banner picture or name. I mean there’s definitely a lot of tech people but that’s also true of Lemmy as a whole.
It’s just a general purpose server, probably with mostly North American users due to the location. And also an especially high concentration of French Canadians
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I cant stop myself from reading your comments in imqtiepies voice…
God bless and welcome to the BDC
Out of curiosity, could you elaborate on what being a member of sh.itjust.works says about one’s personality?
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To be honest I think your personality sounds pretty based 😄
Have a good day!
this dont make sense for me, but I guess I need to understand your view. As I said, I dont think too much about the instance … And imo dont reflect nothing about me since this is just internet and dont reflect my thoughts. I can be what I want here, nobody knows if im lying or not. I can be one of the brothers of Bradd Pitt and probably some people believe on this lie.
Now I’m understanding some people have some wars between some instances and block some instances. At this point I’m more and more confused tbh. But yeah, ty for your opinion
It’s usually not that users block instances because only certain apps can do that. It’s just that not every instance federates with every other instance. In the case of lemmy.world you can go to lemmy.world/instances and scroll to the bottom to see which instances they don’t federate with. Not federating means that lemmy.world is not “listening” to these instances and as a lemmy.world user you’re therefor not hearing from those people either. If some other instance defederates lemmy.world it means that you can still see posts and comments from the users of that instance but they can’t see yours.
Why? Isn’t world refusing to defederate from threads?
I have never once looked at a user’s instance.
There probably are some people who do, just like how there are people who will judge you based on what brand of pants you wear, but most people are just glad that you’re wearing pants.
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I did before .world degenerated from .LemmyGrad. Other than that, it’s not something I care about
lol, I’m not sure if that’s a typo or not.
You’re not wearing pants, are you?
Right now, I am, but no promises after I get out of work.
I mean, after basically every second comment I saw from hexbear was tankie nonsense I definitely started judging them differently. They’re extremists who seem to want to turn everything into a debate. So I made sure to block them. Most instances are fine though, and are indeed not that different than the brand of pants someone wears: not something I really care about.
Same
If you’re on lemmygrad or hexbear I will immediately dismiss pretty much anything you say and assume you aren’t worth interacting with. Otherwise I don’t put a lot of stock into what instance a user belongs to. Sometimes your instance can indicate that you have certain interests (technology based instances, startrek.website) or how you identify (blahaj.zone, pawb.social, etc).
I have a lot of issues with the admins of lemmy.ml, but I don’t think the users are inherently problematic. The server itself is advertised as being for privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, so I think a lot of people join without realizing the admins enforce their explicitly communist viewpoints that sometimes border on being pretty tanky.
People, myself included, aren’t fond of lemmy.ml because it pretends to be a privacy-centric instance but it’s actually run by people who defend any and every criticism of Russia and China under the guise of critiquing capitalism.
They commonly say that any bad news about China or Russia is western propaganda while everything from their state-run “news” platforms is gospel.
They’re unable to say that two things are true at once, like capitalism is a pure shit system AND China and Russia are fucked for a million reasons specific to them.
People get banned from their server for saying that China is anything but a utopian dream.
And then, yes, people unfairly assume that you must be cool with all that because you’re using their instance. If you’re not married to the idea of staying there, I’d suggest deleting your account and using a different instance.
Last week I made a comment on some post on the /all page. The post was about china and my comment was fairly china positive, imo. A couple hours later I opened my phone again and my inbox was flooded with weird responses as if I had insulted someone’s mother. Turned out it was a post on lemmy.ml. I have the instance blocked now.
When I first found about Lemmy I landed on join-lemmy.org, which told me lemmy.ml is big instance ran by the Lemmy developers, so it sounded like the most “default” option.
Now this thread tells me it has some political affiliation and many people judge/block it… How is someone who only found out about Lemmy supposed to know this.
I don’t judge users for their instance. I’ll judge mods and admins for what they promote and allow, but not users. Unless they’re tankies from lemmygrad.
You rang?
Short answer: yes
Long answer: some of us even have entire instances blockedThe only instance that I’ll usually immediately give a side-eye to is Hexbear, and only them because a significant percentage of those folks have a certain… style and culture that gets on my nerves. But an individual can still be a cool person and it’s not like I’m about to come in the comments and dunk on you or preemptively block you based on your home instance. I block users because they’re assholes, or annoying, or argue in bad faith, not based on where their account is hosted. And I would expect that’s probably consistent across most lemmings. You won’t get a bad rap only for being affiliated with ml. Now if you say something stupid somebody might use it as a bludgeon to talk bad about ml as a whole, or vice versa, but that’s going to happen any time you have something approaching “team sports” like this.
In general, don’t stress this too much. In specific, keep up with what’s happening on your home instance and if they’re doing something you don’t like, pack up and move elsewhere. That’s a core function of the way the fediverse is constructed. If it sucks, hit the bricks. You can just leave, and set up shop in another instance, or host your own, and you aren’t beholden to anyone. But if you don’t care then you don’t have to.
In specific, keep up with what’s happening on your home instance and if they’re doing something you don’t like, pack up and move elsewhere. That’s a core function of the way the fediverse is constructed. If it sucks, hit the bricks. You can just leave, and set up shop in another instance, or host your own, and you aren’t beholden to anyone.
It’s kind of unfortunate that lemmy doesn’t have functionality to facilitate account portability today, providing a way to associate accounts from the view of other users and to migrate settings and the like.
I agree. I hope that makes it into the feature list for the future. It seems like an obvious next step to make that part easier and less painful for users.
a certain… style and culture
“Oh, you don’t love Stalin? Have you considered pee pee poo poo?” -Hexbear, unironically. and when challenged, they double down and act like its some form of moral intellectual superiority
That’s the impression I get. Bunch of college kids learning something new for the first time, think no one else knows it, and therefore they have the best smelling farts.
I don’t judge users like that unless they’re from some actually nasty instance. Lemmy.ml is somewhat politically aligned like you said, but it’s still generally a “normal” option, with lots of “normal” users.
You can create more accounts elsewhere to see if your experience changes, but I think ml should be okay.
Edit: And I don’t think carefully choosing an instance is that important. You can always go elsewhere. Just read the rules and if they seem ok, go for it.
I like the experience im having here on lemmy… I dont discuss politic neither politic views. Tbh, dont care about it. I just want to be the full experience of Lemmy, where i can see all communities and dont get blocked , since I choose lemmy.ml because when I did a sign up, Im pretty noob about fediverse.
I dont discuss politic neither politic views. Tbh, dont care about it.
You and me both.
I don’t know know if there’s a good tool to list all instances that defederated yours. I often use lemmyverse.net to find new communities instead of relying on built in search. So if something doesn’t open, I’d at least know something blocks or is blocked by my instance. Though that hasn’t happened yet, probably because this instance is not toxic and also so small that no one even knows about it.
I don’t judge people based on their instance. Although, there are a few instances I have just straight up blocked because their users just cause way too many problems.
That said? If someone is being a jerk, I will look at their instance and quite often have a “yeah, that checks out”. I don’t really have any issues with lemmy.ml but I have definitely noticed a “type” of user. Not bad enough to block the instance but enough that it often counts as two strikes as far as I am concerned. Be a jerk and I see you are from lemmy.ml? Good odds I just block you then and there rather than checking your comment history to see if this is a recurring theme or not.
Which ones did you block? I blocked lemmygrad and hexbear. Helped my blood pressure a lot I think.
Same. I got brigaded in my first 24 hours because I corrected someone on a RUS/UKR disinfo comment they made. Nearly made me leave. I’ve blocked both instances in my client but I still occasionally see them pop up for some reason regardless of the alt account I’m on.
In your settings you can export a file containing all the communities you have subscribed to. Import that file in the settings of your new account on a new instance and then carry on :)
All else held equal, I’d guess that someone on a .ml instance – which is chosen to refer to “Marxism-Leninism” --is more likely to be far left, just as someone on pawb.social is a furry, lemmy.blahaj.zone to be trans, or aussie.zone to be Australian. Does that mean that everyone on all of those instances are any of those? No, of course not.
And lemmy.ml was the second-largest instance during the outflow from Reddit, so a lot of people just grabbed it.
Personally, in choosing an instance, it probably wouldn’t be the one I’d choose. I also wouldn’t pick it because it’s gonna be where the latest release gets put into production first and you’re liable to crash into any issues – lemmy.world admins, for example, are far more conservative, did minimal patching to fix critical bugs rather than jumping right on 0.19, and their userbase avoided crashing into the broken 0.19 releases. On the other hand, if you’ve established an identity on lemmy.ml and are otherwise happy with it…shrugs
Some instances, like hexbear.net or lemmygrad.ml, are far-out-there enough that some instances might defederate with the instance, which I think is probably a bigger concern. I don’t think that that’s nearly as much a risk with lemmy.ml.
.ml is the country code for mali and is often used bc it’s very cheap
Yeah, I know, but the reason that the lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml crowd is using it isn’t because of association with Mali.
Yes and no. I don’t judge immediately, but if someone says something sus, and their instance matches the sus vibe, then I judge.
I spend an hour or so on Lemmy a day and other than the bad bad ones (the ones named to attract predators etc) I have no clue what all the instances are. I see lemmy.ml and assume it’s just a lesser used main instance.
So, no judgement from me.
That was my assumption too. My main account was on lemmy.ml and it was almost three months before I found out the “.ml” part apparently stood for “Marxist-Leninist”. This came as a surprise, as I hadn’t seen anything in the server espousing that, and Lemmygrad and Hexbear were seemed to attract the lion’s share of Leftists.
It’s also just a cheap domain name. The admins are Communists, but .ml is not an explicit leftist server, just a FOSS and privacy focused server.
The main (to my knowledge) Anarchist community is hosted on .ml.
I like .ml because it’s always updated, and on the bleeding edge, plus I like FOSS and Privacy. I’m also a leftist, but not an ML, so it fits me better than lemmygrad or hexbear.
