Similar vibes than Reddit api pricing

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        But what launch provider should I use then?

        Boeing? No, I don’t think so.

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            You don’t like GNSS?

            Also space programs have been the source of a lot of world changing inventions.

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                  Are you? stfu or go invent a microwave that prevents neoliberal mayors and govenors (at least in the US’s system) from sicking cops on their own constituents while giving the real estate contracts to their buddies who are only interested in building McMansions. 🤡

                  Edit: As a rule I dont get dragged into pointless debates.

                  Im as enthusiastic for space as they come.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pjdJa122I4

                  Simply put, until we address the root causes of systemic injustice which are low hanging fruit, and by that I mean do away with the parasitic billionaires who prevent that, any venture into space shall be doomed to come crashing back down for the self-canniblizing fascism which imperialism is.

                  It’d be funny, if it werent so sad, to see clearly the indignance and hipocrisy from those who believe themselves so enlightended, double down on the “importance of space” exploitation, capital extraction and colonization…without ever considering the rest of the picture.

                  I used to be bothered by the lyric

                  spendin all their OUR money building rockets they can shoot into the stars

                  Neoliberals had their chance with this fucking dynamic, and blew it.

                  I have no interest in a future in space that is owned by assholes and authoritarians. That doesnt mean i give up on Star Trek. It means I recognize this society is barreling ignorantly toward the bell riots.

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            I agree that manned space programs are unnecessary and unmanned should be very limited. Starlink shouldn’t have been allowed. Unfortunately the US government let telecoms off the hook when it came to serving rural areas.

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          And be locked down to awful local companies? Starlink was cheaper, faster and more reliable than the Canadian alternatives

          I know it’s not always the case, but even then, it’s a global choice versus a local one when it comes to travelling beyond just boats and giving a guaranteed service

          Edit: Woah. Wireless Internet has a lot of issues in Canada, limited speeds, slowdowns, hidden fees… You get rid of that by paying double and getting also double the speed and without anything else hidden

          Albeit you’re stuck to starlink services, but that’s just a downside of satellite internet

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        If you’re on a boat… fair enough.

        Otherwise, look into WISPs… Wireless Internet Service Providers. Great for rural areas, the infrastructure is point-to-point radios, so it’s super easy to go large distances without the cost of fiber or copper cables.

        Best part is, if you have any neighbors that are interested, they’ll often give you a discount if you let them put a sector antenna on your barn/silo. Or they can also erect a short tower if you let them too.

        If there aren’t any in your immediate area, reach out to ones nearby. They’re always looking to expand.

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      …Ok, now what? Is evil defeated yet?

      edit: He’s a fucking cabinet member. Think of something real unless you all want to go hit him with pillows in disgust.

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    Something to note: Tesla has two vehicle APIs, the Fleet API for commercial accounts and the Owner API for individuals. This change currently only impacts the Fleet API.

    If you are an individual owner who accesses your vehicle data from the Owner API (usually via a self hosted tool like TeslaMate), this does not affect you. Yet.

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      I’m not a developer, so excuse me if this is a dumb question. Is the API supplying data that is provided by the OBDII interface? Or is it more than that?

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        There is most likely an overlap on what you can get from the OBD port, but generally speaking the API will provide more high level info e.g driving status, mileage, live location - and the OBD port will provide more low level data e.g. detailed battery stats from the BMS, energy usage, etc.

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      Hey kid, don’t waste your breath defending corporations. You will end up being wrong in the end, and before that you just look like a fool.

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          Isn’t it tacitly defending this pricing model?

          I’ve worked in commercial environments where we’ve had the rug pulled on us in exactly this manner.

          Sure today Tesla isn’t charging you, but the moment it is expedient for them, they will.

          A lot of users here will have had the same experience with Reddit – it’s not unprecedented.

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            Not at all.

            Lemmy is overwhelmingly militantly anti-Tesla, which is understandable considering who owns it, but it does mean that users tend to interpret any neutral or factual statements (basically anything that is not outright criticism) as having a pro-Tesla bias.

            In this case, all I am stating is the fact that this specific change currently only affects corporate users. That could of course change in the future.

            There is a rich history of cloud based data providers pulling the rug from under users with no warning. Look at what happened to Nest users when Google took over.

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            Providing and clarifying information isn’t automatically defending something.

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    Another reminder to developers to not bother with public APIs, just screen-scrape or reverse-engineer the official app private API.

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        This. It’s a recipe for disaster. I think enough (tech-related) companies have shown now, that they first want to lock you in, and then if they got you, want to bleed you out…

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      Then you’re at risk of getting sued for cracking the encryption or the API breaking constantly

      The real reminder is don’t integrate with devices which you can’t trust

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        Yeah guys. Downvote me. This is literally part of my day job.

        In our industry we call not using an official API a dumpster fire API. Because more than once it has completely broken eventually, and there are a few manufacturers warned will break in the upcoming future

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          Is it illegal to scrape? I mean most companies and governments scrape huge amounts of data all the time without getting anyones permission, hell the entire business of a search engine is basically WeScrape4U.

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            If you extract a key from a proprietary client to decrypt a private API, it definitely is illegal. If you do this as a corporation, it would also be easy to detect by abnormal usage patterns tied to your account and presents you as a nice big set of pockets to get sued.

            Just screen scraping isn’t illegal, but is fragile as fuck and will break at the worst time and you have no ability to implement version control to manage it.

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              Personally I wouldn’t want to be the guy forced to write scrapers with how much they break on any modern site

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    When Twitter (and Reddit) pulled this off, I was just mildly pissed. Can’t do interesting things with my data, oh no.

    …Image that, except it’s an expensive luxury car you’re no longer allowed to do interesting things with.

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    So musk pulled a Reddit spez?

    Not surprising as musk is a scammer who got incredibly lucky, always has been.

    Fuck spez and fuck musk

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      Tesla is an American company, in Texas, at that.

      It wouldn’t matter if there were.

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    There goes TeslaFi… fuck. I use that all the time to see my global map and keep track of my stats (like power usage on long drives), and auto enabling of certain features at certain times, like heat/ac after work.

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    Fuck Elon. Fuck Tesla.

    I was their target demographic and Elon made sure that I never even consider their trash. I went BMW instead.

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      BMW does have shady monetization tactics with their newer car, but Subaru shred almost every other car brands to dust

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        Are Subaru cars still loud AF? I had a 2002 Impreza, and a 2012 and both had lots of road noise with everything in the car popping or cracking with every bump.

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          Okay that’s not just me, thank god. I thought something was just wrong with the sound deadening on my Forester, especially because my 30 year old Mazda 323 is at least 50% quieter. Nope, its what makes a Subaru, a Subaru.

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          Of course, and that’s part of the charm. They bag out like a pair of leather slippers. I read something recently about them using a shit ton more adhesive in the new Forester so maybe it’s improving? My 2015 isn’t that bad, but I hate driving in general so basic appliance standards is fine by me.

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      I thought BMW wanted a subscription for heated seats. You know, the seats already in your car but software locked with a paywall.

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      How is it driving without turn signals? Granted, given they put them as buttons on the friggin steering wheel in the new Teslas, maybe not much different?

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        I am sad to say that the old joke is becoming obsolete. These new cars are smart. If you try to change lanes without a turn signal, the car beeps loudly to tell you that you have drifted. Our company also has a Sprinter van that will actually pull you back into your lane. Sad times.

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          Turn signals aren’t for you, they’re for other drivers. I can’t hear the other car yelling at their driver, I just see them decide to cut into my lane with no warning or signal.

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      This is why Elonia is asking trump to impose tariffs on Canada and Mexico. Other car manufacturers started biting into Tesla market share this year.

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      BMW lobbies against non-car based infrastructure and car industry regulation here in Germany. Biggest shareholder is the Quandt family, who are descendant from literal Nazis, and now use part of their billions to fund the conservatives (at least they aren’t giving it to the far-right. Yet.)

      So yeah, fuck Elon, but fuck BMW too.

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        Yeah fine me a car company that’s not like that. Living in the US it’s a necessity to have a car so just gonna nix that argument. I bought a Toyota to get ultimate reliability (yes Honda is basically equal) but I’m sure they both have done equally terrible shit. And when I’m not in grad school I want to go back to a BMW because they are great cars to drive. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism so just try to enjoy your life where you can.

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          On the one hand, sure. On the other hand, if you’re saying you bought from brand A, not B, specifically because the big boss of B is a shithead, I feel like it’s valid to point out the ways the big boss of A is shit too.

          Since everyone is shit, I dunno, buy used, I guess.

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            It’s good information and something I will take into account for next time.

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            “Theres no ethical consumption under capitalism, so what do you expect me to drive a used car like a PEASANT? If i cant consume 100% ethically ill just consume however i want, and i want a fancy german treat car so just shut up okay”

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      never owned a BMW, or a Tesla for that matter, but I’ve heard they’re just as bad when it comes to being money hungry