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Some guy vandalizing a NAZI car.
Why would they arrest themselves or their friends?
Add mass murderers, insurrectionist militias and extortionists to the serial killer list that are being sidelined for car vandals and immigrants.
You could also make this point with illegal immigrants.
With ICE simply looking for “Anyone they can excuse grabbing”, all violent/gang-affiliated immigrants have to do is exercise basic caution, and ICE will miss them completely. If they have enemies, or witnesses in immigrant communities that could testify against them, all they have to do is leave ICE a tip against that person.
The NYC office of the FBI, the nation’s largest, is working 24/7 redacting the Epstien files.
I am sure that none of the agents will feel humiliated and decide to share information with the media.
They’re fbi agents. Fascist lackies for the most part lmfao
And Britain still had a colonial empire when WW2 started. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
The reason the Right keeps winning elections is that they vote all the time for anyone who has an “R” by their name. Meanwhile the Left stays home because they don’t agree with the Dems 100%.
I think you’re missing the point I’m trying to make. I’m trying to say, the fbi agents are on their side. Not ours.
The FBI agents have their own agenda. If we’re smart we’ll use them to stop Trump.
The Afghans used the US before they opposed it.
Some guy improving Teslas with cool free penis art
Easier targets and political relevance, if you’re a sociopath, as people who climb the proverbial ladder tend to be, that’s the best “bang for your buck” so to speak as far as looking good in law enforcement.
Or this is a Pepe meme ass shitpost and it’s the serial killers humping the cars.
Cannot stress enough how downplaying the influence of shitty conspiracy theorist memes is how our culture got fucked.
Now that’s shitposting
Leave Pepe alone you bastards
Except it’s not just some guy vandalizing a car, or else you wouldn’t be making memes about it.
Thank God someone spoke up for the nazi billionaires, where would the world be without good people like you
Yeah, exactly.
It’s two guys, and it’s a truck. Let’s be accurate here folks.
Except it’s not just some guy vandalizing a car
It’s not just one guy serial killing, drug running, or human trafficking either.
it’s a nazi car
I wish it were everyone
It’s regular people who are stuck with a Tesla. They got sold in to the EV crowd, and until the last 5 years Tesla’s were pretty much the only major fully electric option do the charging network. They were lied to by Musk with promises that never came. One thing they did get is a nifty video security system, I bet the cops are loving all the video evidence. Not everyone can just sell their car at a major loss to get something different, life ain’t that easy.
I’m gonna say it; if an Arab man set someone’s car on fire, or started attacking dealerships they’d be charged with terrorism with out a second thought. 5 years ago if a white man in a red marvel hat keyed a Tesla or set it ablaze, the same crowd keying/lighting cars today would be calling for blood. Sick of the “rules for you, none for me” bullshit.
Destruction of property is not a protest against Tesla, its a crime against the people who own the car, a burden on taxpayers, fire fighters are risking their lives to put out those Tesla fires because “protesters” got upset at 1 dude they can’t reach and decided to take it out on the closest person they could.
Should we start stabbing people with United Healthcare now?
Your comparison of people who rely on United Healthcare being mistaken for their CEO is absurd.
People can sell their Tesla’s, but Americans can seldom choose their insurance provider. Insurance is also how people stay alive, and a Tesla is simply a tool for getting from point a to point b, of which there are literally thousands of alternatives.
Tesla’s cheapest model (the model 3) starts at over $42,000 for the bare-bones, base model. That’s an extremely expensive sedan. You can sell that used and select from a huge selection of excellent NEW cars.
So yeah, fuck Tesla’s. Fuck their maker, and fuck their owners.
The problem with selling a Tesla is the greatly reduced sell value, who wants to buy a car with such a shit reputation they’re getting set on fire? Either the crazy Musk/trump idolizers or someone who lives under a rocks and will gladly a buy an extremely expensive sedan for cheap. Unfortunately, unless their dumb enough to put a giant maga sticker on the car (but then how do you know someone isn’t vandalizing cars with stickers like that to watch other people harass the owner), there’s no way to know anything about the person driving it. They could be renting it because their’s broke down and that’s the car that was available, we simply do not know.
Tesla owners are basically being forced into loosing around 20k. Even selling it, they still have to pay off the rest of their loan. If they still have 30k to pay, and only sell for 20k, there’s still 10k on loan. then another 5k for a down payment on a new car. Do you have 15-20k sitting in the bank your able to spend and loose 20k in assets without it being a financially stupid idea? Not many do.
Only if the loan is payed off the loan or almost done could it make some since to sell the car at a 50% loss. It sucks, and should be done to get rid of the Tesla, but I still feel bad for the folks who wanted the EV for the environment/at home charging/no gas and got sold into the Tesla marketing.
And okay, my UHC example is easily broke on an individual level, but companies still choose the provider. Do we go set fire to random businesses that picked United Healthcare? That’s not gonna hurt UHC, it’ll just hurt the families of the workers who no longer have a job.
If you want a different example, insert Nestle or something, same idea applies.
And I’m going to emphasize this again, nothing musk does is justification for risking anyone’s life with burning cars.
The problem with selling a Tesla is the greatly reduced sell value.
That’s not the problem. That’s the objective. Reduce the attractiveness of new Teslas. Reduce Tesla revenue, reduce Tesla share price, reduce Musk’s power.
nothing musk does is justification for risking anyone’s life with burning cars.
Are there incidents of Tesla owners being physically harmed (Ignoring autopilot problems and manufacturing faults)?
Its an objective that is causing a major fucking problem for the people who want to sell their tesla but can’t without going bankrupt. You’re hurting thousands (hundred of thousands?) of people to stick it to one man.
People setting fire to a car forces fire fighters to have to put that out. That’s a waste of resources, possibly delaying other calls, and its a fucking fire. It doesn’t take much for the situation to become dangerous
Not hard to imagine the risk of something exploding or “sorry we couldn’t get to your hose 5 minutes earlier to save your baby because were scrambling around town dealing with arson”.
It’s not worth the risk.
You’re hurting thousands (hundred of thousands?) of people to stick it to one man.
That one man is now hurting tens of thousands of people with his (unelected) government actions.
I’m not hurting anyone. However this online chatter is hurting the Tesla share price so I’ll keep it up.
People setting fire to a car forces fire fighters to have to put that out. That’s a waste of resources, possibly delaying other calls, and its a fucking fire. It doesn’t take much for the situation to become dangerous.
Yeah. I think burning is too extreme, but the French are experts in this form of protest
I’m more an advocate of non permanent damage (notes on windshields) and writing on the Internet. IMHO slashing tyres achieves the same extreme impact with less environmental damage or possibility of injury.
Not everyone can just sell their car at a major loss to get something different, life ain’t that easy.
But if enough people are persuaded to sell then this will damage the Tesla share price and margin call Musk.
Nobody want to buy it, they cant sell it
Drop the price low enough and someone will be willing to take the risk.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it literally the fact that serial killers and human traffickers were getting arrested and deported that had folks torching Teslas to begin with?
Where in the world did you hear that? Every source on this cites Elon and his extremist Nazi beliefs as a core reason.
You’re responding to a Nazi. Reread their comment, they’re saying all the people being illegally arrested are rapists and murderers
No, I did not say that. But a lot of them were, and this meme seems to be saying that it would be preferable for violent criminals to get arrested than for protestors who only cause property damage. Except the protests causing property damage were literally in response to violent criminals getting arrested, so this a complete red herring.
You don’t seem to subscribe to “innocent until proven guilty” do you. These people are accused of being criminals but they are not convicted. But I guess if King Trump the Wise says they are criminals then they are
The majority of them DID have criminal records:
Those 538 arrests included 373 people with criminal records and 165 people without criminal records aside from immigration violations
But either way, if they entered the country illegally, that’s a crime in and of itself and deportation seems appropriate.
Okay, but what’s the evidence for him being a Nazi, other than a single hand gesture (that many Democrat leaders have made as well BTW)?
I don’t see him invading Poland or putting people in concentration camps, literally all he is doing is cutting wasteful government spending.
Ah, you are one of those.
Blocked.
Anyone can go through videos to get the perfect screenshot to make it look similar. We all saw what he did. Boot licker
Donations to AfD, a political party whose leaders have regularly violated Germany’s anti-Nazi laws. It’s really that simple.
Mate, have you seen the shit he has retweeted saying he agrees? A bunch of replacement theory shit, heaps of antisemitic shit, and a while much of other racist shit.
that many Democrat leaders have made as well
If you watch the videos of those Democrat leaders, it’s pretty clear they’re waving to a crowd. Elon’s one was obviously a nazi salute.
wasteful government spending
Ah yes, wasteful stuff like vital medicine distribution and humanitarian aid, and really lowering the deficit by cutting taxes on big corporations, and giving contracts to his own company.
racist much?
Only occasionally
on occasions when you are awake?
Well, I certainly hope I’m not posting here in my sleep.
Well, Trump is still in the white house, so youre literally just wrong
Ahem, alleged serial killers and human traffickers.
None of those deported got a fair trial.
Oh trying to argue with one of those undereducated americans is like talking to a door. I mean they voted for Trump. twice
I do enjoy the spectating the sport ‘Mental Gymnastics’.
So we should just sit around and wait until they become confirmed serial killers and human traffickers?
Wow. Ok. Before I go on, can I just say that your world view is extremely messed up. I’d tell you to go get it checked but I know the US healthcare system is broken.
First of all, if they’re not confirmed, how do you know that they are serial killers and human traffickers? The colour of their skin? How many tattoos they have? What evidence or procedure, other than a visual inspection, would make you believe that they are what you think they are?
Secondly, if they were awaiting trial, they’d be waiting in an enclosed space away from the general public as a precaution. Isn’t it meant to be the American judicial mantra that everyone is innocent until proven guilty and that everyone has a right to a fair trial?
Thirdly, what if you’re a serial killer or human trafficker? How would you prove otherwise if you were deported immediately? Or would you become one anyway since others have already decided for you?
They already broke the law by coming here illegally.
And who makes those laws? And for what purpose? Is it to curb the incoming illegal migrants? Doesn’t seem to work. Many people are crossing the border to look for work and are actually successfully integrating with their new society. Shouldn’t the law allow for legal transition rather than keeping them as illegal immigrants? Shouldn’t there be legal pathways to citizenship? Shouldn’t it be easy for those on visas to check when their papers will be expired to prevent being in the country illegally?
The border isn’t a walk in the park to cross either. If you don’t die in the river, you’ll likely die in the desert. If it’s so high risk, what’s the reward worth? Why even bother crossing?
If I showed up at your house at night, unannounced and without permission, would you throw me out right away or wait until I raided your fridge?
I would call the cops and let them put you on trial, obviously.
Also, I would’ve been able to see that you’ve come from the neighbour’s house, which is not as nice as mine. If it turns out in trial that you just wanted to escape the poverty of next door and want to sell your labor, hell yeah I’d pay. You can mow my lawn.
That doesn’t mean they don’t deserve a fair trial.
Shut the fuck up, you useless sack of shit. You should get deported to Mar A Lago with your racist, nazi friends.
Mar A Lago seems like a nice place to get deported to. Thank you for your kindness, I’ll take it.
I posted this in another thread but it’s worth posting it here too. This person is obviously not arguing in good faith. Literally everybody knows that’s not the situation. But here this person is, oversimplifying, speaking to anger others, and obfuscating the facts.
Anyway, here’s my comment from the other day:
This is that usual gaslighting rhetoric from the right. Someone reminded of the Sartre quote about anti-semites recently. It’s so applicable to how the right twists facts and makes absurd over-generalizations. It’s the epitome of acting in bad faith.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
I’m sorry, but what part of what I said was antisemitic?
Look everyone they are again doing exactly what the example above states: writing bulshit to elicit emotional responses.
As opposed to posting memes to elicit emotional responses?
Hey Dora, you really NEED to get off the acid, and stop licking Boots. He’s… he’s all wet, and clearly uncomfortable.
